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General Tech => Hardware => : lucid May 17, 2013, 05:46:53 AM
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I'm in the market for a gateway for my house. Currently we have ethernet only and I don't want to rent a modem from Comcast. So I'm looking for a router-modem combo. The only things that matter is that it's cheap and supports port forwarding.
Hit me.
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-Old shit computer with linux and a cheap 1000mbit switch.
-router that can go behind it, than youll have something for future situations.
(I had good experience with D-link routers or something that can run openwrt or tomato.)
Why would you need another modem ?
You can just use a switch as long as you have a DHCP server.
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Sorry proxx :) Lucid.. never ever buy a dlink device. Its the greatest crap I have ever seen in my complete networking career.. lol. Cheap and also good?.. If you have an old PC you can follow what proxx suggested. If you don't have one go for a linksys device. They are owned by cisco and the products are quiet good but a bit more expensive than the dlink crap.. lol.
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start?utm_source=Lifehacker+Newsletter&utm_campaign=b27e854d4c-UA-142218-1&utm_medium=email#linksys
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Thanks for the link RBA. I don't have an old shit computer or a switch but if I did I would do that too. I'll do some research.
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Anyone has some piece of scrap lying around or knows how to get it right :)
Its based on the assumption that you like networking configuration and control.
You could run your own DHCP , proxy and DNS server from that box.
Switches cost next to nothing.
Lol after a couple years I realized that I should have bought different hardware years ago, silly me.
Lol about the dlink , I know its cheap crap however there are certain models that work really well.
If course cisco is the way to go.
Although I must say that I also had some nightmarish experience with linksys.
We all know the strange cases where DMZ just doesnt work, portforwarding magic that always fails :P
I know lucid is a linux guy and im pretty sure hes gonna love doing the stuff himself.
But I'd also vote for some proper cisco router they are expensive however.
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I admit that would be fun. The thing is that, well, actually my gf want's to get wireless in the next few days. So I was just going to get a gateway quickly. Then after that I could spend the time setting up my own server.
Does anyone have a specific recommendation on a good linksys model to purchase?
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What do you guys think of this one?
http://www.capitolsupply.com/catalog/cisco-linksys-spa3102-na-voice-spa3102na-cs2150772.html?cid=gkw_pa&gclid=CNzsnaLMpbcCFaYWMgod3msAlw
I'm looking for something under 100 usd.
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Voice Gateway?
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Maybe the Linksys E3200 High-Performance Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless-N Router (http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B004T9RR7C)
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Whatever you buy, be sure to check it's compatibility with dd-wrt, open-wrt, tomato, etc... So that when you stop using it, you can still play around with it. I've made the mistake of buying gateways that won't support custom firmware and now their only function is dust collectors.
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Maybe the Linksys E3200 High-Performance Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless-N Router (http://www.amazon.com/electronics/dp/B004T9RR7C)
Wait a second is that a router/modem? That looks like just a router..
EDIT: How about this:
http://salestores.com/linksyswrt54.html?gclid=COLF-6X0qLcCFSdgMgodJ34AVA
If I'm not mistaken, that serves as a router AND a modem. See, currently I'm renting a modem from comcast. It's 7 dollars a month and it is just a modem so we have no wifi. What I want to do is get a combo device so that I don't have to rent out there shitty little modem, and I can get wifi.
So, how does that look?
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With any ISP your going to be paying a rental fee whether you use their shit or not. I work for a DSL provider and know other who work for comcast, and yet others that work for hughesnet and other ISPs. No matter what you do or what you try, your always going to pay that rental fee. I would say keep the shitty modem they give you since your always going to be paying for it, then use your own routing device.
The plus side is, since your paying for this shitty modem monthly, do with it what you will. I have pulled apart my modems from my ISP and found the headers to flash my own firmware. Hell, one time I had everything soldered into the headers then called my ISP, forced them to push a firmware update, then had a dump of the full update and all. With a binwalk, I had access to everything I ever needed.
Moral of the story, they will charge you for the modem/router whether you use it or not. Might not show up on your bill, but in the end your still paying for the shit.
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Ok, well the dude told me I could get a gateway and I wouldn't have to use their modem so therefore I wouldn't have to pay for it. For some dumb reason I'm having a really hard time even finding something that I am confident is a combo device. Everything I find it either says router or modem, some say gateway but then some say gateway and router, so I'm not sure if the ones that just say gateway are what I'm looking for or not.
How about that one I posted above?
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Im not familiar with that ISP and whatever strange policy they apply.
However there are some basic assumption that can be done.
You need a device so you can hook up multiple computers.
You need a wireless AP.
You have an ethernet port on the modem.
Basically you can just buy any router or switch that has a wireless module.
I would stronly advice you to buy something universal.
For example this device ; E1000 linksys or the E2000 linksys
Forget all the crap they talk about, just use their modem hook it up with your router.
When you move or switch providers or whatever you can just use the same device.
As already stated a couple times its good to look for something that can run openwrt or tomato.
The device in one of the last posts is some weird voip oriented thing that you dont need really.
Forget the word gateway, I think thats causing confusion.
Your router will be your gateway.
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Ok yeah I think there was a little confusion with the word gateway. I've decided I'm just going to look for my own modem AND get my own router. That way I don't have to deal with there shitty modem.
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I've decided I'm just going to look for my own modem AND get my own router. That way I don't have to deal with there shitty modem.
There are devices that can function as a modem and a "router" at the same time.
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There are devices that can function as a modem and a "router" at the same time.
Yeah I've been looking for one of those the whole time. That's what this thread is about. But I can only ever find routers or modems. But not both in one.
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Yeah I've been looking for one of those the whole time. That's what this thread is about. But I can only ever find routers or modems. But not both in one.
How is the modem connecting to the network? Does it uses a telephone cable (RJ11)?
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Yeah I believe so
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Yeah I believe so
Then you'll have to buy a router that has a DSL port (RJ11) instead of a WAN, or "Internet" port (RJ45). A example of a router that has that kind of port is Thomson TG787.
Here's a image of a router with both ports (TG784n):
(http://www.speedtouch.ca/images/products/29_~tg784rear.JPG)
The grey port is the DSL port i'm talking about and the red port is the WAN port.
As a side note, calling these devices "routers" is kind of a mistake since they're an all-in-one device: router, switch and modem.
Side note 2: Thomson devices won't support custom firmware.
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Wait a second is that a router/modem? That looks like just a router..
Sorry lucid, I misunderstood what you need.
I thought you just need the wireless access point, not that you want to swap out the modem itself completely.
Unless you're connected over coaxial cable (which is what I have) I cannot offer you some other solution, sorry. Indeed the one I linked to you (E3200) is just a wireless access point.
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Its based on the assumption that you like networking configuration and control.
I do
I know lucid is a linux guy and im pretty sure hes gonna love doing the stuff himself.
But I'd also vote for some proper cisco router they are expensive however.
I would.
How is the modem connecting to the network? Does it uses a telephone cable (RJ11)?
RJ6
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RJ6
Looks like a telephone cable to me, similar to RJ11.
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Looks like a telephone cable to me, similar to RJ11.
Well yeah except it's round.
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Well yeah except it's round.
Wait... Don't you mean RG-6? That would be a coaxial cable.
(http://atechfabrication.com/images/rg11_rg6_009.jpg)
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Wait... Don't you mean RG-6? That would be a coaxial cable.
(http://atechfabrication.com/images/rg11_rg6_009.jpg)
Oh did I say RJ? Yeah sorry I meant RG. It's got an RG-6 input and an RJ-45 output. It's one of those shitty little motorola modems. Even though we got some router in the mail for free I would still be interested to find a decent combination device. Although I REALLY would be interested in setting up my own home server, but, not all of us make 50+ a year working as a net admin.
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Oh did I say RJ? Yeah sorry I meant RG. It's got an RG-6 input and an RJ-45 output. It's one of those shitty little motorola modems. Even though we got some router in the mail for free I would still be interested to find a decent combination device. Although I REALLY would be interested in setting up my own home server, but, not all of us make 50+ a year working as a net admin.
I have a piece of crap running as a home server, bought it for 25 euros years ago.
Stripped it all the way down , now its only a drive, mainbord and 2 NICs, disabled even the USB and everything there is to lower power consumption.
Basically thats the only downside to this , the electricity costs, its damn expensive here.
Have a home media center running on a 'business' class laptop with a broken screen, got it for free. its fucking perfect.
Those routers have way less performance than any old piece of shit you can find.
If course you can run linux on any piece of shit.
Thought about getting one of those thin clients , which are dirt cheap and use that as a server.
Only issue with that is ; getting something with SATA.
But they go as low as 15 watts.
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Oh did I say RJ? Yeah sorry I meant RG. It's got an RG-6 input and an RJ-45 output.
Yeah, you need an access point with a WAN interface and connect it to the modem. As for the modem itself, I never used those, so I can't help you there.
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Yeah, you need an access point with a WAN interface and connect it to the modem. As for the modem itself, I never used those, so I can't help you there.
Well yeah I know. Lol I feel like the point of this topic has become convoluted.