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Community => General discussion => : Axon July 15, 2013, 12:25:32 AM

: Give a cookie?
: Axon July 15, 2013, 12:25:32 AM
I'm sorry to bother you all, but what the hell is this new replacement to karma "Give a cookie"?. And why it has a low value than the karma?
Karma = 180
Cookie = 134
What kind of calculations were made to come up with this?
: Re: Give a cookie?
: Zesh July 15, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
I'm missing 3 cookies! Santa!!!
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: Snayler July 15, 2013, 12:31:19 AM
Don't worry, all will be back to normal by tomorrow.
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: ca0s July 15, 2013, 12:42:14 AM
Applauds - smites maybe?
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: Fur July 15, 2013, 12:47:07 AM
Applauds - smites maybe?
I believe this is the case.
16 (my current number of cookies) + 6 (the amount of smites I had) == 22 (my karma before the switch).
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: Snayler July 15, 2013, 01:11:03 AM
I believe this is the case.
16 (my current number of cookies) + 6 (the amount of smites I had) == 22 (my karma before the switch).
Yeah, it fits my karma ratio too.
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: Illicit July 15, 2013, 01:24:43 AM
Shame, cookies sound so much better than Karma,
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: Pak_Track July 15, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
Shame, cookies sound so much better than Karma,
You weren't really around when we had the karma system. The proper one. Maybe the admins thought it was strange to have an applaud sign only. Cookie is better alone. But if smite comes back, Applaud will come with it.

Edit: 300 posts, 30 cookies xD
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: lucid July 15, 2013, 05:14:48 AM
I had 202 karma, now I have 154 cookies. Not sure how it got there but it doesn't bother me. Just a number anyway.
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: techb July 15, 2013, 05:59:06 AM
Now I'm going to have to eat a bowl full of oreos and milk.
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: pyte July 15, 2013, 07:46:50 AM
I'm so generous il give everyone a cookie!  ;D 
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: proxx July 15, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Wtf is this.
That looks pretty bad all the sudden.
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: Darkvision July 15, 2013, 09:08:41 AM
the important thing to note here is now we can bait wild ande's. im going to use all my cookies to lead him to my bed tonight.
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: Snayler July 15, 2013, 03:15:51 PM
the important thing to note here is now we can bait wild ande's. im going to use all my cookies to lead him to my bed tonight.
Go home darkvision, you're drunk... :P
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: taters July 15, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
But I block cookies...
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: Pak_Track July 15, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Why not have a referendum to decide whether the majority wants smite back, in the form of  "Steal a cookie," of course!
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: ande July 15, 2013, 05:45:01 PM
Lets see how it goes..
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: Pak_Track July 15, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
Lets see how it goes..
Yay.
I give you a cookie as a sign of my gratitude.
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: Snayler July 15, 2013, 06:47:35 PM
OMG, now I can steal all the cookies for myself!  ;D
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: Mordred July 15, 2013, 07:18:44 PM
Maybe the fact that you're actually stealing food from another member will make people feel remorseful about mass-cookie-jackings.

Loving this!
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: Axon July 15, 2013, 10:22:39 PM
OMG, now I can steal all the cookies for myself!  ;D


(http://i.qkme.me/3r1cfd.jpg)
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: Darkvision July 16, 2013, 01:47:22 AM
am i the only one that wants to jack all of IFS's cookies? :P


Anyway i have to complain about this new feature. now every time i come to the forums my fat ass will get hungry from all the subliminal suggestions for cookies.
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: Phage July 16, 2013, 01:01:28 PM
Same as above, I want a cookie everytime I visit the forum now.


I see both good and bad sides with the new feature. So far I think we should give it a chance.


Watch out, I'm going to grab all your cookies now!
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: Darkvision July 16, 2013, 05:24:15 PM
Same as above, I want a cookie everytime I visit the forum now.


I see both good and bad sides with the new feature. So far I think we should give it a chance.


Watch out, I'm going to grab all your cookies now!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fohzbk.png)
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: Phage July 16, 2013, 05:25:20 PM
Don't push Dr. Phil on me! I know what I'm doing, I can control it.
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: Deque July 16, 2013, 07:53:00 PM
I didn't try it by now, but do I actually get a cockie if I steal one?
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: proxx July 16, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
I didn't try it by now, but do I actually get a cockie if I steal one?

No not really, thats kinda weird isnt it, on the other hand , coding a bot that would make xxxx cookies an hour would be wicked.
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: Darkvision July 16, 2013, 11:38:56 PM
No not really, thats kinda weird isnt it, on the other hand , coding a bot that would make xxxx cookies an hour would be wicked.


i read that and edward scissor hands jumped straight into my mind....mmm cookie bot. oh oh you mean like a scripted bot! my bad.


*walks away grumbling about how he likes his idea better*
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: ande July 16, 2013, 11:57:37 PM
At the moment giving a cookie is the same as adding one without taking one from yourself. Same goes for stealing a cookie, you take one but you dont get one.

We could make it so the cookies function as a currency, you give and you take. But that would always limit the amount of cookies in circulation unless we add new ones from time to time. This will also make it harder for new members to give cookies because they would start with 0.

What do people think?
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: Darkvision July 17, 2013, 12:30:56 AM
At the moment giving a cookie is the same as adding one without taking one from yourself. Same goes for stealing a cookie, you take one but you dont get one.

We could make it so the cookies function as a currency, you give and you take. But that would always limit the amount of cookies in circulation unless we add new ones from time to time. This will also make it harder for new members to give cookies because they would start with 0.

What do people think?


i dont like the idea frankly, i think it would encourage cookie hording. By that i mean lets take say geXXos. He posts massive amounts of content, i often find that i cant even karma him as much as i want to because of the one hour rule. Now if you make it where i can truely "run out" of cookies what becomes worthy of one? And while sure its an arbitrary currency that has no real value, physiologically it is a "carrot". you posted good stuff for us we give you a noticeable pat on the back. Any time you log in you can go "hey the community appreciates me spending hours searching for new sites/content that we havent seen".


If you make cookies themselves rarer, which by doing this its a given that they become rarer(infinite supply vs finite). I think this will create a "toxic" environment, which was i know part of the reason you removed neg karma to start with. in the end i think this would not only end up sky rocketing the complaint department, but ultimately make the board itself less active and less friendly for all.



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: vezzy July 17, 2013, 07:13:47 AM
Turn the cookies into a decentralized, cryptographically secure P2P protocol that would take the hardware capabilities of cracking RSA-4096 in order to mine them.
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: Deque July 17, 2013, 08:42:50 AM
At the moment giving a cookie is the same as adding one without taking one from yourself. Same goes for stealing a cookie, you take one but you dont get one.

We could make it so the cookies function as a currency, you give and you take. But that would always limit the amount of cookies in circulation unless we add new ones from time to time. This will also make it harder for new members to give cookies because they would start with 0.

What do people think?

Nope, just leave it the way it is.
People shouldn't think like "Ah I only have 10 cookies left, should I really give one?"
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: proxx July 17, 2013, 08:53:03 AM
I agree with the above , it would create a weird situation.

However the idea of some kind of currency on evilzone with whatever purpose sounds interesting, interesting and aweful at the same time, the real world aint that pretty either.
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: proxx July 18, 2013, 01:49:08 PM
This is a double post , I know.

How is it possible to have - x cookies.
Should that be considered debt?
Can I also borrow cookies in that case?
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: Darkvision July 18, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
This is a double post , I know.

How is it possible to have - x cookies.
Should that be considered debt?
Can I also borrow cookies in that case?


unless im greatly mistaken cookies shown is your combination of old +/- karma system and that when the -karma was "removed" it wasnt so much removed as disabled, so the negative database/portion was still intact. so if you had +20 and -40 your total is -20 cookies now.
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: proxx July 18, 2013, 02:38:16 PM

unless im greatly mistaken cookies shown is your combination of old +/- karma system and that when the -karma was "removed" it wasnt so much removed as disabled, so the negative database/portion was still intact. so if you had +20 and -40 your total is -20 cookies now.
I noticed that.

However this was more of a practical aim.
Like I can have 5 cookies and eat them , however having -5 cookies is just weird.
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: lucid July 19, 2013, 01:05:20 AM
I strongly disagree with EZ currency. Whether it be cookies or wheat grains.
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: Kulverstukas July 19, 2013, 06:28:23 AM
No no, there will not be any currency on Evilzone.
About the cookies: yes, it's the same karma system but wrapped in a pretty cloth displaying total of the cookies. You can think of the negative cookies that you're in debt and you must contribute to pay your debt because that way people will give back your cookies.

It's a simple concept that I hope will smack some fun into the community :P the whole Karma crap was getting too... boring?
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: Darkvision July 19, 2013, 07:40:18 AM
No no, there will not be any currency on Evilzone.
About the cookies: yes, it's the same karma system but wrapped in a pretty cloth displaying total of the cookies. You can think of the negative cookies that you're in debt and you must contribute to pay your debt because that way people will give back your cookies.

It's a simple concept that I hope will smack some fun into the community :P the whole Karma crap was getting too... boring?


lol add a top "cookies" of the month status board top 3 get an actual package of cookies! The bottom 3 (most neg cookies) have to buy them or spend a month in stocks in the village square! its WIN WIN!


anyway on the serious side i have noticed(i suppose we will see if it keeps up) at least so far just changing the name from karma to cookies has seemed to have allowed people to have a lot more fun with the system, while maintaining its purpose. Amazing what a difference just a name makes.

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: Deque July 19, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
I agree. The name "cookies" make it look less serious.