EvilZone
General Tech => Hardware => : Matriplex June 03, 2014, 01:10:03 AM
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Alright, so I got an internship this summer working at a tech company, and it pays decently for my age. I plan to put ~15% in the bank for savings, and blow the rest on an almost completely "future proof" computer. Of course there's no way to make any PC last more than a certain amount of years, but I want to do the best I can. At the end of it, I have about a $1500 to $2000 (stretching it) budget.
I'd like to get a top notch GPU and CPU, 16 gigs of RAM, but I really don't care how it looks or sounds. The performance is the only thing that really matters to me. What are your suggestions for the graphics card, CPU, case, and storage?
Thanks.
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Don't forget the power supply. I made that mistake; bad things happen without a power supply. Get an external drive such as HDD or SSD for backups.
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I've put together a list of what I think I'm going to get. If anybody has any suggestions as to what I could change, do speak up.
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, Intel HD graphics, BX80646I74770K)
Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan
MB: Asus Z87 PRO LGA 1150 Motherboard
GPU: GTX 780TI GAMING 3G
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL9 @1.5V UDIMM 240-Pin Memory
Along with a Cooler Master HAF 912 for a case, a WD Blue Sata 1 TB hard drive, and a Crucial M500 120GB Sata SSD. Also a disk drive and keyboard, but that's not very important.
This goes for a total of $1,754.68.
Don't forget the power supply. I made that mistake; bad things happen without a power supply. Get an external drive such as HDD or SSD for backups.
Ah thanks, I did almost forget about that... Off for a little more research.
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I'm looking at this here: http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
This brings the total up to $1,815.42, which is starting to push it. Also, I'm starting to wonder if I really need an optical drive... I feel like they are fading out, fast.
Any suggestions?
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For future proof I recommend this
http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-X-850-SS-850KM-Active-ATX12V/dp/B004ETEFTK/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401766215&sr=1-3&keywords=seasonic+power+supply
What is the purpose of the pc.
For gaming i5 4670k and amd 290x is enough .
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For future proof I recommend this
http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-X-850-SS-850KM-Active-ATX12V/dp/B004ETEFTK/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401766215&sr=1-3&keywords=seasonic+power+supply
What is the purpose of the pc.
For gaming i5 4670k and amd 290x is enough .
I'll be using it primarily for gaming and game programming. My lappy I have right now simply isn't cutting it, I can't really write and test high quality post process shaders with it running at 5-20 FPS...
Edit: It's difficult to do so, not impossible.
So I can drop down to that i5, because I suppose I won't really be doing anything CPU heavy like animation rendering. However I would like to keep that GPU. With that power supply and the less expensive CPU, my price stays about the same. That's awesome actually, thanks for the advice.
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But what's the point in this? what will you be doing with it?
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But what's the point in this? what will you be doing with it?
Talking about it on image boards to feel elite?
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Future proof, non existant.
If you have that kinda money at hand I suggest you start looking at server boards, like supermicro or alike.
No need to go for consumer junk.
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Future proof, non existant.
If you have that kinda money at hand I suggest you start looking at server boards, like supermicro or alike.
No need to go for consumer junk.
Why would I get server hardware for a personal computer?
But what's the point in this? what will you be doing with it?
On my previous post I said games and game programming. I may be spoiling myself a little as well. Haha, and no, I won't be showing off on image boards. That's not something I do.
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I wouldn't bother getting more than you need at the moment, because hardware is getting cheaper every year.
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, Intel HD graphics, BX80646I74770K) // Just keep in mind that Intel tends to change sockets every 6 months, so new CPUs won't fit your mobo for long.
Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan // Have it myself, good for the price. Just get someone else to help install it and only turn each screw a little at a time or the other screws will raise and you won't be able to screw them in without damaging the mobo. Also keep in mind the mobo might report that your fan isn't installed, which is bullshit.
MB: Asus Z87 PRO LGA 1150 Motherboard // Funnily enough, I have this too. I may have got the MSI z87-g45/65 instead (it's a bit cheaper), but they're both pretty good. Most of the features are useless though.
GPU: GTX 780TI GAMING 3G
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL9 @1.5V UDIMM 240-Pin Memory // Unless you KNOW you need it, just get 8gb.
I'm looking at this here: http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Power-Supply/dp/B004RJ8EKI/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
I don't think 550W will be enough, but I'm no expert. I'd get the Corsair TX 750W V2 M. Corsair PSUs are top notch and have 2 year warranties. Also, a kitty dies every time someone skints on the PSU because lower cost means cheaper components which, are usually inferior to more expensive ones.
Also, I'm starting to wonder if I really need an optical drive... I feel like they are fading out, fast.
Just get one. Never know when you'll need it (old games, operating systems, stuff like that) and it's like £15. Pennies compared to the rest of it.
Also, remember to get an ESD wrist wrap and wear it whenever you're messing about.
Oh and you might want to check out my thread regarding this matter (https://evilzone.org/hardware/need-help-choosing-parts-for-a-gaming-desktop/), where Darkvision gave me a shittone of advice.
P.S: If you ever get stressed when building, take a minute to get a drink and re-read the instructions.
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@Fur
Thanks for that link, it's really helpful!
When you say don't get more than I need, I'm guessing I should drop down to that i5. Also, getting getting 8 gb of corsair will drop my price down as well. Considerably. This means I should have room in the budget for a better psu, which from what I've heard is extraordinarily important.
Also, I thought I'd just ground myself by touching my case every once and a while. Is this not recommended?
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I'm guessing I should drop down to that i5. Also, getting getting 8 gb of corsair will drop my price down as well.
Sure. If I remember correctly, CPU speed increases by about 30% each year (think I read that on the Wiki page for Moore's law), so in the long run it won't really matter, so I'd go with the i5. Also, I for the price increase of the i7-4770k over the i5-4670k, I didn't see that much of an advantage, but I didn't look long. As for RAM, I don't think you'll need more than 8gb for a while.
Is this not recommended?
I wouldn't risk it, especially considering an ESD wristwrap is like £1. Better safe than sorry.
Alright, so I got an internship this summer working at a tech company, and it pays decently for my age.
Aren't you like 13?
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I've modified my list a bit, and am now buying these pieces instead. Anything not on this list is the same as it was above.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K
PSU: Seasonic X-850(SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W (sakthibruce recommended this one)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin
This, with a couple extras like a disk drive and keyboard, bring the total up to $1,762. For those curious, I'm getting a sidewinder x4 (Microsoft) for the keyboard.
Aren't you like 13?
No, I'm a bit older than that. Where did you get that notion?
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Where did you get that notion?
I'm an idiot. All I remembered from your into was "Fast forward two years (I'm about 13) ", but at the bottom you say "Now I am 14, almost 15 ". Forgot you were referring to yourself in past tense.
PSU: Seasonic X-850(SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W (sakthibruce recommended this one)
I've heard some very good things about Seasonic, sounds like a solid choice. Just keep in mind that a non-modular PSU might be a bit annoying to manage because of the cable spaghetti, but that probably won't bother you.
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I'm an idiot. All I remembered from your into was "Fast forward two years (I'm about 13) ", but at the bottom you say "Now I am 14, almost 15 ". Forgot you were referring to yourself in past tense.
I've heard some very good things about Seasonic, sounds like a solid choice. Just keep in mind that a non-modular PSU might be a bit annoying to manage because of the cable spaghetti, but that probably won't bother you.
It's fine, actually I'm nearly 16 now. Weird to think I joined when I was 14...
Thanks for the continual advice, I've got a solid list now. And I don't mind the cable spaghetti too much, just a few tags on the cords as well as some of those zip ties and everything's neat looking. Thanks for the advice everyone.
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Why would I get server hardware for a personal computer?
On my previous post I said games and game programming. I may be spoiling myself a little as well. Haha, and no, I won't be showing off on image boards. That's not something I do.
Because its built to last and often outperforms regular hardware, since the budget allows it...
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Because its built to last and often outperforms regular hardware, since the budget allows it...
I'll look into it then, thanks.
I've got a final, silly question. From what I can see on the specification list my mb has WiFi capabilities built into it. Is this really true, or will I have to buy a wireless card as well?
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Also, there's different versions of the 780 ti. There's the MSI, EVGA superclocked, and a few others. Are there any particular ones I should look at or are they pretty much all the same thing?
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I've got a final, silly question. From what I can see on the specification list my mb has WiFi capabilities built into it. Is this really true, or will I have to buy a wireless card as well?
Yep, it has a removable antenna that is connected to the mobo through 2 connectors in the back i/o panel. It's also magnetic, which is useful for keeping it on the case. Assuming you're talking about the Asus Z87-PRO.
Edit: picture of the antenna (http://linuxlookup.com/files/imagecache/800x600/asus-z87-pro-5.jpg)
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Yep, it has a removable antenna that is connected to the mobo through 2 connectors in the back i/o panel. Pretty decent one at that, currently getting 5 bars in the kitchen and 4 in my bedroom. Assuming you're talking about the Asus Z87-PRO.
Oh goody :D
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Here is my list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D8WDkL
Take a look and hack it by your desire :P
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Here is my list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D8WDkL
The motherboard is overkill. I'd spend the money on something more useful instead of bells and whistles.
A discrete sound card is pretty much unnecessary unless you have a high-end audio setup.
I wouldn't get that mouse. Honestly, Razer seem to be more focused on marketing than making decent products. Lots of people also report quality issues with their products.
As for the mech. keyboard, same as above. I'd get a no-frills one instead of one of those gimmicky "gamer" boards.
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Here is my list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D8WDkL
Take a look and hack it by your desire :P
Thanks! However, I've got my list put together pretty firmly and I know what I'm getting.
@Fur
I don't think too highly of Razer either. Seems way overpriced and unnecessary, who wants a ~2600 DPI mouse anyways? I was thinking of getting a mechanical keyboard though... Got a little bit more research to do I suppose.