EvilZone
General Tech => Operating System => : Phenom July 21, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
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I installed many Linux distros over the week and found that I only like Fedora 20 because of the Gnome interface , and Kali for the security tools.
So I'm thinking of forking a pre-made distro and customizing it for the Evil Zone community.
Please answer the questions below in the same format:
What Distro should it be based upon? (Debian...)
What is some must-have software (packages) ? (Firefox,midori...)
Some must have repositories?
Desktop Environment? (KDE, Gnome...)
I will start to develop this in 2-days after responses.
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No offense but do you have any experience in this field and any clue how crazy much work that would be.
If it be just for gnome interface (which imo is far too bulky) than don't bother.
Apart from that , (this is all opinion) but yum isnt all that fantastic either.
I would say base it on arch or debian with something really lightweight such as xfce/lxde or something like DWM
Than built a custom repo.
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No offense but do you have any experience in this field and any clue how crazy much work that would be.
If it be just for gnome interface (which imo is far too bulky) than don't bother.
Apart from that , (this is all opinion) but yum isnt all that fantastic either.
I would say base it on arch or debian with something really lightweight such as xfce/lxde or something like DWM
Than built a custom repo.
Yes I know it would be crazy hard for me , as I have no experience with building Linux Distros - But im a 12-year old sitting at home (and at classes) through summer break. My classifications are:
Html,CSS,Php (Currently learning C and trying Python)
although I will be taking linux classes on Udemy for assistance.
I am very keen and have decided that I will spend a fair share of my day towards this (around 3-4 hrs. a day).
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I agree with proxx on this one, good luck.
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I agree with proxx on this one, good luck.
Thanks
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Yes I know it would be crazy hard for me , as I have no experience with building Linux Distros - But im a 12-year old sitting at home (and at classes) through summer break. My classifications are:
Html,CSS,Php (Currently learning C and trying Python)
although I will be taking linux classes on Udemy for assistance.
I am very keen and have decided that I will spend a fair share of my day towards this (around 3-4 hrs. a day).
Uhm sorry to break your balls here and I mean I encourage you to dive deep into the linux world but you really need a firm understanding of certain concepts.
Good understanding of BASH would be an absolute minimal.
Did you ever do a gentoo install or did anything with lfc(linux from scratch)?
I would suggest trying that and coming back here in a week or 2 and share your experience.
My feeling is that you are trying to run when you cant walk.
I know this guy who has his own distro (forked from slack 10 years ago) own package manager and the whole shebang.
We talked about it, because I would personally like to do something like that at some point , his reply was short ; dont do it , waay to much work.
This never really hurt anyone but I can understand his point and respect his opinion.
I will at some point though.
Pulling together some wallpapers and call it another SOMEbuntu doesnt qualify as a distro imo.
Its hard work and probably too much for just a summer project.
I know that fedora has some iso creators and shit, it doesnt hurt to spinoff some preconfigured iso with some packages, but qualify as a distro..
Da link:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
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If all he really wanted to do was pre-load a distro with security tools and a few wallpapers then it's piss easy to do, but honestly what's the point in all that.
Evilzone doesn't need a distro, there are plenty of fucking distros in the world that are already using the aptitude package manager which allows you to just pull down the kali linux repository and have access to all of those tools. If you want to customize your own distro to make it look how you want that's one thing but you're effectively just re-inventing the wheel at this point.
I actually want to make a full-fledged os fork based on debian, thanks for all your reply's although I will be going through to make this :-\ . Thanks EZ , will be back when need help. And yes I am reading Linux from scratch
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Apart from what others have said, even forking a distro is just wwaayy too much work for one guy to pull off alone especially at the maintenance period. This is not to discourage you but it's the trouth if you want it to be a successfully running distro. It's simply too much heat for one guy to serve a whole community (this way)
BUY, If it's for your learning purpose then it's actually a pretty good idea. Especially if it's a team learning project. (A whole distro seem like too much fun for just one guy).
Either way good luck.
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Apart from what others have said, even forking a distro is just wwaayy too much work for one guy to pull off alone especially at the maintenance period. This is not to discourage you but it's the trouth if you want it to be a successfully running distro. It's simply too much heat for one guy to serve a whole community (this way)
BUY, If it's for your learning purpose then it's actually a pretty good idea. Especially if it's a team learning project. (A whole distro seem like too much fun for just one guy).
Either way good luck.
It is for learning purpose =D
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It's only good for learning - as an every day system it would be kinda useless.
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I know of a few communities where guys spin off own distros like they are drinking coffee. Except that they sometimes use pre-configured base systems like that of Kali, for-example.
I wouldn't be allowed to advertise another community but search on the web, you might find those with hard-nuckle experience.
Will just say that you should get BASH under your gloves; fall and stand, fall and stand; Grab some crutches, fall and stand.
When you have learned enough, get on with other things and invest what you have learned.
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Saw this topic, immediately thought of the guy who suggested a new programming language, only, for 'hackers.'
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I am really impressed that u are 12 and what to build a diatro already. Nice efforts I see u like cookies her is one. And what would be nice is a debian based with KDE as desktop and for the files what would work best is for u to get all what is on Kali and eventualt add somw tools from the Tools Section here!
Good luck with this
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what would be nice is a debian based with KDE as desktop and for the files what would work best is for u to get all what is on Kali
So...... you want him to make Kali.
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Yup - from what im getting he wants a cool-looking Kali - There's Parrot OS for that!
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Yup - from what im getting he wants a cool-looking Kali - There's Parrot OS for that!
So...... you want him to make Kali.
I really expected these replies from u guys :') I even was about to mention parrot anws it's just that Kali and parrot are great so he can't really make better unless he is a security prodigy. I suggested this because what he basically want is to experience making a distro and learning it's mechanics not really making the new best security distro so basically trying to copy parrot or kali is not a bad idea :p but that's just my opinion :)
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The idea should be classic and stable,
Here one, think of stable Linux Like
Linux Mint
Ubuntu
Opensuse,
Fedora
Deb Linux
With all 300 Tool of Kali Linux which had been tested and install Manually !
Conclusion : we would had a Linux which is
1 : Stable with software
2 : stable and compatible with many Hardware (Ex Laptops , wireless card)
3 : Good for Programming and daily use !
4 : Good for Penetration testing
5 Name it amazinglinux.com lol
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The idea should be classic and stable,
Here one, think of stable Linux Like
Linux Mint
Ubuntu
Opensuse,
Fedora
Deb Linux
With all 300 Tool of Kali Linux which had been tested and install Manually !
Conclusion : we would had a Linux which is
1 : Stable with software
2 : stable and compatible with many Hardware (Ex Laptops , wireless card)
3 : Good for Programming and daily use !
4 : Good for Penetration testing
5 Name it amazinglinux.com lol
Another *buntu* ,sounds like a plan.
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The idea should be classic and stable,
Here one, think of stable Linux Like
Linux Mint
Ubuntu
Opensuse,
Fedora
Deb Linux
With all 300 Tool of Kali Linux which had been tested and install Manually !
Conclusion : we would had a Linux which is
1 : Stable with software
2 : stable and compatible with many Hardware (Ex Laptops , wireless card)
3 : Good for Programming and daily use !
4 : Good for Penetration testing
5 Name it amazinglinux.com lol
All those 300 tools would bloat your system. There's not really any need for 280 useless tools on your system. I've chose BackBox for my hacking adventures, since it offers great stability yet comes with the necessary tools to be effective. There's not 280 useless tools installed.
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If you take those distros, and add all 300 tools from kali linux, you end up with kali linux, just shittier, and maybe based on a different OS, so probably a different package manager and thats about it (at that point)
Seriously, I'd be more impressed if you built a bare bones OS that included tools for compilation and netcat. That's it. Make me the tiniest, most compact OS ever. I mean it's been done before but I'd still like it better than you apt-get *'ing 300 times on a fresh ubuntu install.
Also Ubuntu Debian and Mint are all fundamentally the same OS, Js.