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Community => General discussion => : Ghost Face September 01, 2014, 10:11:46 PM

: Whats your schooling?
: Ghost Face September 01, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
Im currently going to school for electrical engineering however might for for computer science after.


I was wondering what kind of schooling do you guys have?
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: Axon September 01, 2014, 11:34:13 PM
Physics FTW
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: Ghost Face September 01, 2014, 11:49:04 PM
Physics FTW


I love physics, have read many books on entry level physics. However my math is meh, i am god awful at word problems so i struggled with it in highschool.
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: shadowwolf September 01, 2014, 11:53:59 PM
I'm still in high school, but I'm planning on computer science and either physics or engineering.
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: hanorotu September 02, 2014, 04:42:32 AM
High school graduate, I'm a butcher by trade though.
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: P0LYmath September 02, 2014, 10:15:48 AM
It's my *opinion* that school is over-rated, especially in technical fields where certification and hands on/ practical experience count more. Employers are looking for people that are technically proficient, not good at homework.
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: Stackprotector September 02, 2014, 11:30:37 AM
Electical engineer then Media Developer now Computer engineering/Technical Computing
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: techb September 02, 2014, 12:52:40 PM
Computer Information Technology. Self taught background in software development and EE.
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: Deque September 02, 2014, 01:53:44 PM
Computer Science. Only a few months left for my MSc.

@P0LYmath Certifications are overrated as well and just used to get some money out of your pocket. Yes, employers love them, but they are as useful to tell if someone is (not) an idiot as university degrees are.

It is always up to the person to make something useful out of the stuff he or she has an opportunity to learn. Some schools are pretty good to provide the foundations. But the best school can't help an idiot.
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: proxx September 02, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Proud to say ; None
And it blows anno 21st cent.
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: shadowwolf September 02, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
I don't consider schooling or degrees a factor of intelligence, but sadly if you don't have a degree some companies won't even interview you.
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: Hazzar September 02, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
Computer science, and almost done.  8)
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: gray-fox September 02, 2014, 05:37:03 PM
High school graduate. Altough next spring i'm starting computer science studies, after six years break from school:D
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: Phage September 02, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
Graduated college with a "degree" in Physics and Math. I was planning of going the computer science way, but things has changed, and I'm now persuading a career within Personal training.
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: P0LYmath September 02, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
@P0LYmath Certifications are overrated as well and just used to get some money out of your pocket. Yes, employers love them, but they are as useful to tell if someone is (not) an idiot as university degrees are.
One of the benefits of being employed by the D.O.D. is that they will pay for our certs with D.O.D. money. All I've had to do was study and take the tests. But I agree with your second point. I just mention Certs because there is much less time/effort required to study and take a few certifications than to get a full degree (especially when alot of those college classes have zero to do with your actual job)

It is always up to the person to make something useful out of the stuff he or she has an opportunity to learn. Some schools are pretty good to provide the foundations. But the best school can't help an idiot.
True, when it comes to learning that's usually on the individual, no amount of hours in school will make you smart, but careful self study will. You don't need college to be good at your job. You need two things: Diligent Self Study and Practical hands on experience.

But some times having those little pieces of paper makes you more marketable and can help put you in places with alot of really smart people that can teach you ALOT of cool shit...
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: P0LYmath September 02, 2014, 06:50:41 PM
I don't consider schooling or degrees a factor of intelligence, but sadly if you don't have a degree some companies won't even interview you.
That's not true, It just depends on what kind of job your looking for. If you want a programming job, then perhaps, computer science might be a requirement. But for jobs like this:
https://careers-archimedesglobal.icims.com/jobs/1329/computer-network-operations-analyst/job?mode=job&iis=Job+Board&iisn=Indeed&mobile=false&width=710&height=500&bga=true&needsRedirect=false (https://careers-archimedesglobal.icims.com/jobs/1329/computer-network-operations-analyst/job?mode=job&iis=Job+Board&iisn=Indeed&mobile=false&width=710&height=500&bga=true&needsRedirect=false)


Check this search for other cool jobs in the hacker field:
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=%22red+team%22+or+%22red+teams%22+or+%22red+teaming%22+-proposal+-medical+-patient+-treatment+-nurse&l=United+States&sort=date (http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=%22red+team%22+or+%22red+teams%22+or+%22red+teaming%22+-proposal+-medical+-patient+-treatment+-nurse&l=United+States&sort=date)
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: Phage September 02, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
You don't really need degrees to be a professional developer. Just build a nice portfolio and send it with your resume.
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: Axon September 02, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
I don't consider schooling or degrees a factor of intelligence, but sadly if you don't have a degree some companies won't even interview you.
I fully agree with you. However, in order to make a good career, you have to have a degree or at least a school education, you can't go against the norms of society.
Graduated college with a "degree" in Physics and Math. I was planning of going the computer science way, but things has changed, and I'm now persuading a career within Personal training.
Wow, I didn't know you are a fellow physicist. Greeting   :D
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: Phage September 02, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Hello :)
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: kenjoe41 September 04, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
BSc in Physiotherapy; Self taught software dev and alot of mixed fields n tech stuff.
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: Resistor September 04, 2014, 03:41:49 PM
I've spent a lot of time on various internet forums throughout the years, and as I grew accustomed to the various communities and started developing friendships with other posters, I opened up and shared things about my life with them, and became friends with them. I haven't been able to do this for well over a year now, though. Edward Snowden broke down a wall of information, and that information led me to conclude that I should build up a wall, and never let it faulter.

I see lots of threads like this on the internet, and I see lots of people talking about where they go to school, what state they live in, all sorts of personal information. It sucks that I really can't get to know other people in this way and become part of communities and develop friendships. I think friendships on the internet are just something that should be avoided. Especially if you're interested in things like hacking, or drugs, or even if you're just politically dissenting. It sucks that the world is this way, but them's the breaks I guess.

I would just like to say generally though that I am academically studying information security, and I came across this site and saw that some very smart people posted here, and it looked like a very good source of information.

I'm not leet, but I strive to be. I do think I know enough about the human element though to be able to offer some advice. A slogan taken from The X Files.


Trust no one.
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: Pak_Track September 04, 2014, 03:46:56 PM
I'm doing my GCSE's and am currently in the tenth grade, as a Computer Science and Addmaths student. The rest is pretty much self-taught.
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: Architect September 04, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
I graduated HS with a 3.98 GPA and high scores on my SAT's and very high state scores on all my aptitude tests. But this doesn't make me better than any of you, as I am young (well as far as you know) and scores on paper mean little in person. I was able to get into a college prep in HS for computer engineering and information tech because of my "suspicious background" in IT as a young'n. I have worked as a contract pentester for several companies since, as tech support for medium businesses and red team leader for a larger corporation. I've overseen and I've conducted *some* APT studies and am primarily focusing now on malware (and femaleware  ;) ) research, forensics, engineering, and programming.
END CV. lol.