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Hacking and Security => Anonymity and Privacy => : Code.Illusionist September 10, 2014, 07:44:52 AM
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Hello there, recently my ISP sent me mail where they notify me of using torrent and illegally downloading some file I did not downloaded. They said that company who has copyright over it reported to them that I am downloading. I mean, I do understand that company can also download torrent and trick IP's of active torrent guys, but I did not downloaded that movie! I did other files of course. SO I am asking you how to protect my IP again? I know that I could use proxy but is there any other way?
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Hello there, recently my ISP sent me mail where they notify me of using torrent and illegally downloading some file I did not downloaded. They said that company who has copyright over it reported to them that I am downloading. I mean, I do understand that company can also download torrent and trick IP's of active torrent guys, but I did not downloaded that movie! I did other files of course. SO I am asking you how to protect my IP again? I know that I could use proxy but is there any other way?
1. Do you run a TOR node?
2. Do you use a wireless router?
3. Have you checked your system for malware and verified your open ports?
4. Do you have a firewall?
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1. Do you run a TOR node?
2. Do you use a wireless router?
3. Have you checked your system for malware and verified your open ports?
4. Do you have a firewall?
1) Do not use Tor to torrent...read here: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
2) Your wireless (unless customized for tor/proxies) router will not prevent or anonymize your traffic from ISP eyes.
3) Possibility, but highly doubt it. Still always good to check to make sure it is not a phishing attack.
4) This is not doing anything to help with the issue...unless you are trying to use a torrent client, and it is being blocked.
OP: When you torrent, unless it is free software under a non-restrictive license...you run the risk of being found out. That is the inherent danger of downloading things that have copyrights. There are two things to do here, 1) Stop torrent illegal things for a while, let it cool down. 2) When you do download, check your trackers, and use a peer block that will stop known lists of IP's used to find individuals with files illegal gotten. A good tracker will stop the brunt force of the risk associated with torrenting by auto-blocking RIAA, and other entities. A peer-block is a list or filter that blocks known bad IPs from connecting to the swarm/ more specifically you since I believe it is implemented client side.
Another option depending on the amount you do torrent, consider tor guard (http://torguard.net/) which will (very generally) encrypt your torrent traffic so your ISP does not see that you are downloading illegal things, but it won't stop them from knowing that you are torrenting. I believe they offer VPNs as well....also consider a seedbox.
All in all, don't be stupid. Don't torrent or open files without verifying file integrity. Check reviews of the torrent on the websites you do visit. And for the love of god employ some common sense. Check out the guides here, or Google search for ways to limit your exposure of getting caught.
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1. Do you run a TOR node?
2. Do you use a wireless router?
3. Have you checked your system for malware and verified your open ports?
4. Do you have a firewall?
Neither of these things have anything much to do with it.
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Neither of these things have anything much to do with it.
Except number two if he ment that someone used Code.Illusionist's wifi and downloaded the movie. Bit of a cliche though [emoji1]
But ( @Code.Illusionist ) because you said you didin't download the movie, maybe you should ask from your ISP if they(or these copyright owners) can link the claimed download to certain MAC addres if accusation is only made by your wan ip(Your connection probably is behind NAT?)
And solution in future, like you said proxy, or VPN ..or your neighbours wifi[emoji14]
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Except number two if he ment that someone used Code.Illusionist's wifi and downloaded the movie. Bit of a cliche though [emoji1]
But ( @Code.Illusionist ) because you said you didin't download the movie, maybe you should ask from your ISP if they(or these copyright owners) can link the claimed download to certain MAC addres if accusation is only made by your wan ip(Your connection probably is behind NAT?)
And solution in future, like you said proxy, or VPN ..or your neighbours wifi[emoji14]
Lets assume he knows how to use a computer :)
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Lets assume he knows how to use a computer :)
I do and probably knows how to use it better than me.[emoji1] At least that first "chapter" of my earlier post wasn't for to take too seriously anyway. ;)
And what i said about asking that mac addres i wasn't referring to that. Just thought that finding out if those movie people or isp have any other proof than ip addres wouldn't be such a bad idea.
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torrent through a vpn (preferably a paid one like PIA). If your too lazy/broke to pay for one, use software like Peerblock/PeerGuardian and download lists from iblocklist to prevent certain ip address from accessing your computer.
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I just talked to my girlfriend and it seems that when she came to my house, she had active torrent on (just seeding) aaaaaand used my internet. So yeah , they discovered it only then. I downloaded movies/tv shows/games after that , and nothing happened. So , I guess it's safe to continue. They reported me only for this, but that was like month ago, or a bit less.
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I just talked to my girlfriend and it seems that when she came to my house, she had active torrent on (just seeding) aaaaaand used my internet. So yeah , they discovered it only then. I downloaded movies/tv shows/games after that , and nothing happened. So , I guess it's safe to continue. They reported me only for this, but that was like month ago, or a bit less.
Ah, easy explanations , we like those.
Well I use my own connection to download stuff, so far where I live not much is happening but I am starting to become increasingly weary of the monitoring.
I know someone that had to pay 100's of money for a single movie 8|
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Ah, easy explanations , we like those.
Well I use my own connection to download stuff, so far where I live not much is happening but I am starting to become increasingly weary of the monitoring.
I know someone that had to pay 100's of money for a single movie 8|
Well thank you for warning me. I am aware of monitoring and their way of fighting against piracy . Will keep my downloads up to minimum. x)
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Ah, easy explanations , we like those.
Well I use my own connection to download stuff, so far where I live not much is happening but I am starting to become increasingly weary of the monitoring.
I know someone that had to pay 100's of money for a single movie 8|
Yep, last year in Finland some little girls father downloaded one music cd to her. and he got 600 euros fine because of that one cd. So at least in here fines can be quit big.
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I need some out of country VPS somewhere to use as a dl box.
Some sftp like connection to it to pull it in, this would be secure enough for any of those suckers just logging some IP addresses.
Spending a few money per month for doing so will always beat getting caught.
How about an Evilzone torrent box ??? :P
Sharing a VPS somewhere and being able to add new torrents/newsgr and DL the material already downloaded to that box, just need massive storage , scraping some moneys from a few people could keep the costs low.
Another advantage would be that everyone can just pick already downloaded files etc :)
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I need some out of country VPS somewhere to use as a dl box.
Some sftp like connection to it to pull it in, this would be secure enough for any of those suckers just logging some IP addresses.
Spending a few money per month for doing so will always beat getting caught.
How about an Evilzone torrent box ??? :P
Sharing a VPS somewhere and being able to add new torrents/newsgr and DL the material already downloaded to that box, just need massive storage , scraping some moneys from a few people could keep the costs low.
Another advantage would be that everyone can just pick already downloaded files etc :)
See, this is quite interesting.
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You're not very bright are you?
1. If he's running a TOR node meaning: he's allowing others to use his computer as a jump point, they could be using that connection to download and upload TOR (This is discouraged but not at all improbable)
2. If his wireless access point has been hacked and used to download TOR files then his ISP would obviously assume he was the culprit...
3. If his system has been trojaned/rooted then just as with tor it could be used as a pivot point for downing/upping torrent files.
4. If he was running a firewall he'd be able to tell what ports are open on his system.
Stop assuming you have a clue, because clearly IT is not your department.
1) Do not use Tor to torrent...read here: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea (https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea)
2) Your wireless (unless customized for tor/proxies) router will not prevent or anonymize your traffic from ISP eyes.
3) Possibility, but highly doubt it. Still always good to check to make sure it is not a phishing attack.
4) This is not doing anything to help with the issue...unless you are trying to use a torrent client, and it is being blocked.
OP: When you torrent, unless it is free software under a non-restrictive license...you run the risk of being found out. That is the inherent danger of downloading things that have copyrights. There are two things to do here, 1) Stop torrent illegal things for a while, let it cool down. 2) When you do download, check your trackers, and use a peer block that will stop known lists of IP's used to find individuals with files illegal gotten. A good tracker will stop the brunt force of the risk associated with torrenting by auto-blocking RIAA, and other entities. A peer-block is a list or filter that blocks known bad IPs from connecting to the swarm/ more specifically you since I believe it is implemented client side.
Another option depending on the amount you do torrent, consider tor guard (http://torguard.net/) which will (very generally) encrypt your torrent traffic so your ISP does not see that you are downloading illegal things, but it won't stop them from knowing that you are torrenting. I believe they offer VPNs as well....also consider a seedbox.
All in all, don't be stupid. Don't torrent or open files without verifying file integrity. Check reviews of the torrent on the websites you do visit. And for the love of god employ some common sense. Check out the guides here, or Google search for ways to limit your exposure of getting caught.
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Lets keep the flaming to a minimal.
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You're not very bright are you?
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Stop assuming you have a clue, because clearly IT is not your department.
Good thing I did this whole introduction about how I came here to learn, and I was just starting off. Clearly IT is not my department, if my information was incorrect please point it out.
In regards to
1. If he's running a TOR node meaning: he's allowing others to use his computer as a jump point, they could be using that connection to download and upload TOR (This is discouraged but not at all improbable)
2. If his wireless access point has been hacked and used to download TOR files then his ISP would obviously assume he was the culprit...
3. If his system has been trojaned/rooted then just as with tor it could be used as a pivot point for downing/upping torrent files.
4. If he was running a firewall he'd be able to tell what ports are open on his system.
1) Yes this is possible, but if I remember correctly these would be the precautions you take (https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en), and this still doesn't take away from the fact you assume, and accept the risks of that scenario no matter how unfair it seems.
2-3)If his wireless is hacked, you could keep track of the usage of it, and quickly determine it. This doesn't not take away the risk of getting called out by your ISP. People have had their lives ruined by hackers downloading CP through their computers, whether they were guilty or not..(now this is extreme I know) they were still responsible. If his system has been compromised, well unfortunately that does suck. There should be some indications of this intrusion, and actions taken appropriately.
4) This pretty much doesn't change what I said about the firewall keeping prying eyes from seeing his traffic....his ISP still saw or was notified of behaviors on his IP. Seeing what ports are open doesn't nothing to change that fact. And is quite irrelavent unless the former points were the cause. Then actions would need to be taken.
If any of my information is incorrect, please correct it (addressed to everybody), as yes I am new, but I am not dumb. I have torrented for years without so much as a notice, if you get hit with a notice it is still your responsibility to comply. Pirating is risky business, but this risk can be mitigated with proper precautions.
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My whole point was you assumed you knew where I was going with my questions, and clearly... you didn't. So next time, instead of jumping in without really knowing what you're talking about... let the situation develop a little bit. Some times it's better to just observe and learn than try to make yourself look smarter than you are. Ignorance is usually a state that arises from pride. I have no doubt that you are an intelligent person. But you should also be cognizant of where your knowledge set may be lacking and be willing to learn what the other person means before jumping to a faulty conclusion.
Good thing I did this whole introduction about how I came here to learn, and I was just starting off. Clearly IT is not my department, if my information was incorrect please point it out.
In regards to
1) Yes this is possible, but if I remember correctly these would be the precautions you take (https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en (https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en)), and this still doesn't take away from the fact you assume, and accept the risks of that scenario no matter how unfair it seems.
2-3)If his wireless is hacked, you could keep track of the usage of it, and quickly determine it. This doesn't not take away the risk of getting called out by your ISP. People have had their lives ruined by hackers downloading CP through their computers, whether they were guilty or not..(now this is extreme I know) they were still responsible. If his system has been compromised, well unfortunately that does suck. There should be some indications of this intrusion, and actions taken appropriately.
4) This pretty much doesn't change what I said about the firewall keeping prying eyes from seeing his traffic....his ISP still saw or was notified of behaviors on his IP. Seeing what ports are open doesn't nothing to change that fact. And is quite irrelavent unless the former points were the cause. Then actions would need to be taken.
If any of my information is incorrect, please correct it (addressed to everybody), as yes I am new, but I am not dumb. I have torrented for years without so much as a notice, if you get hit with a notice it is still your responsibility to comply. Pirating is risky business, but this risk can be mitigated with proper precautions.
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*captain flies away*
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Okay guys, relax. I think the question in matter has been discussed, I'm closing this down.