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: Muslims killing
: Code.Illusionist January 08, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
VIDEO:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykZhXKYb8AI will never understand sick people as they are. Just because someone made funny comics of muhamed , they come and kill people? WTF. Deal with it you sick muslim.
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: kenjoe41 January 08, 2015, 09:18:31 AM
I thought you were not christian, are you a Jew?
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: Code.Illusionist January 08, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
I don't believe in god. Yet I find it very ignorant to see muslim extremist kill other people. Freedom of speach = dead.
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: HTH January 08, 2015, 09:32:08 AM
I don't believe in god. Yet I find it very ignorant to see muslim extremist kill other people. Freedom of speach = dead.

to be dead implies it was ever alive
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: Code.Illusionist January 08, 2015, 09:37:00 AM
Not really, since I am stating it now, I basiclly say it's dead starting from now on. Just like:

: (php)
$x = 1;
echo $x . "<br>";
$x = 0;
echo $x;
It's dead when I start saying it's dead, not before.
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: HTH January 08, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
Not really, since I am stating it now, I basiclly say it's dead starting from now on. Just like:

: (php)
$x = 1;
echo $x . "<br>";
$x = 0;
echo $x;
It's dead when I start saying it's dead, not before.

Except freedom of speech isn't some boolean you can set at whim, it has NEVER truly existed. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.
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: Lostyx January 08, 2015, 09:41:58 AM
Well, I m not a fervent replier there, but I read quite a lot.

And there I had to reply (yes I m french and yesterday I was proud of the reaction of my country but also other supporting country just a little parenthesis)
 
Fun fact (well not really but ... ) : One of the cops who get shot while he tried to stop them (with a single gun,that guy had balls) was muslim...
Soooo yes ... muslim killing other muslim in the name of the same god, hum ...
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: d4rkcat January 08, 2015, 09:42:54 AM
Except freedom of speech isn't some boolean you can set at whim, it has NEVER truly existed. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.

I'm confused.
I can say what I want. I might be punished for it but I can still say it.
How does it not exist?
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: HTH January 08, 2015, 09:48:28 AM
Thats the ability TO speak d4rkcat.

The freedom OF speech is ones political ability to communicate with anyone, ANY ideas as long as the other party is willing to receive them.

Anyone who isnt mute can speak, very few have true freedom when they do so.
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: Code.Illusionist January 08, 2015, 10:17:24 AM
HTH, you can not say that freedom of speech don't exist just because someone might get killed. It is real, as long as you don't anger some narrow minded fool. Freedom of Speech is real for LGBT groups, but freedom of speech is not good if you are against religion such as Islam. It's always a risky move. So , in a sense , freedom of speech is real, but not always respected.
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: Nortcele January 08, 2015, 12:14:34 PM
Dirty Terrorists...
I have no problem with Islam, but when religion is used for mass murder, its is completely wrong.
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: HTH January 08, 2015, 12:20:27 PM
.....  It is real, as long as you don't anger some narrow minded fool ...


Well you made my point for me. BUt let's agree to disagree
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: Spectrum_963 January 08, 2015, 01:43:24 PM
In my country (which just so happens to be a muslim country) people say that these mass extremist groups were hired by other people/governments/terrorist groups/whatever to make Muslims look bad. *shrugs*

I'm not saying that, but even though I'm not a muslim, I know enough about the religion to say that they're not actual muslims (as in people who actually believe in allah or shit) - in islam, you don't physically fight unless it's the last freakin' option and you have no other choice. In fact, this religion is freakishly peace-oriented, believe it or not. Killing was not called for here, obviously.

My opinion? This is kinda the same as a "Christian" going batshit insane if someone drew a lame ass comic of Jesus. In my eyes, this is no different from the time some die-hard twishit fan killed a girl because she said she was team Jacob. Some idiot thinks he's all that and everyone else is wrong, and instead of trying to proove them right, just makes himself and whatever he believes in look bad. Move along, this happens everyday.
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: shadowwolf January 08, 2015, 05:00:44 PM
The pieces of shit that did this are cowards. They responded to words by using bullets against men who didn't fear dying due to retaliation. By killing these men the terrorists have made them into martyrs who will continue to live on in the cartoons their deaths inspired. The sad truth is that the actions of the few will reflect against the whole Muslim community as people try to find someone to blame. I just hope that things stay peaceful in the memory of those who died.
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: khofo January 08, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
Well if the muslim religion is promoting peace I find it does also a great job creating a great contest for extremism well I guess all religions are the same just remember the inquisition that was terrible like the same shit as nowadays but now with the media and the fact that the Muslim religion is like alone is this phase it makes it even harder for them to move on this period (Like the inquisition disappeared alone) bcz it's like part of the thing to prove this the rest of the world is wrong so this alone makes the Muslim thing really hard, now add politics and tata an infinite problem. Like all my "muslim" friends that are actually not extremist at all aren't truly muslims since they do not even know how to pray and drink beer and eat pork, whereas my friends who truly follows the religion aren't bad people but some set of ideas are really fucked up like when u talk about pork or alcohol or portraying god or anything that is making the actuality nowadays they are like still frozen. Like u can't eat pork and just accept that the guy beside you thinks it'll kill you (Literally)and u both sincerly think that is normal. Muslims can't go on saying they can be open while the differences are real like the hijab for example. It's not like it's a bad religion but when u mix it with our actual culture it is normal to see differences and extremists rising. The whole thing is really fucked up really
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: Axon January 08, 2015, 05:36:22 PM
First of all, freedom of speech is an illusion, it does not exist, it only exists in the minds of the deluded.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/25/muhammadcartoons.comment
Second, this is fishy from the beginning, why they carried this out at this specific date(the beginning of 2015). The last time the newspaper published a cartoon about Muhammad was in 2012? So they have 2 years of planing?

 I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, although I don't usually believe everything told by the media, but let's go back a week earlier and read this news article.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.634733
As I said something is fishy here.
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: d4rkcat January 08, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
First of all, freedom of speech is an illusion, it does not exist, it only exists in the minds of the deluded.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/25/muhammadcartoons.comment
Second, this is fishy from the beginning, why they carried this out at this specific date(the beginning of 2015). The last time the newspaper published a cartoon about Muhammad was in 2012? So they have 2 years of planing?

 I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, although I don't usually believe everything told by the media, but let's go back a week earlier and read this news article.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.634733
As I said something is fishy here.

False flags are everywhere these days.
I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL.
I'm at the point where I would almost be more surprised if it wasn't a false flag.
It's crazy to think that there are people who don't mind killing people just to shape public opinion or further their political agenda.
It's so crazy that most people can't fathom that such evil could exist in the world.
I think it does.

There have already been "retaliation" attacks against muslim places of worship:

http://rt.com/news/220819-attack-mosque-france-paris/
http://rt.com/news/220795-france-blast-mosque-restaurant/

And politicians not letting a good crisis go to waste:

http://rt.com/news/220871-lepen-capital-punishment-shooting/

hmm this is a bit fishy

http://rt.com/news/220663-charlie-hebdo-cartoons-attack/

Also of interest, one of the first people on the scene taking photo's was an Israeli journalist:
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1
Works for:
https://twitter.com/channel1iba

Probably all coincidence.
What a world, when will it stop?

read this news article.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.634733

: Haaretz
Israel's Foreign Ministry summoned France's ambassador to Israel Patrick Maisonnave for clarifications over his country's vote in favor of the Palestinian resolution at the UN Security Council Tuesday night.

A senior Israeli official said that the meeting with the ambassador will take place on Friday with Aviv Shir-On, the Foreign Ministry's deputy director-general for Western Europe.

Also on Wednesday, National Security Adviser Yossi Cohen called his counterpart at the Elysee Palace, Jacques Audibert, and protested the French vote at the UNSC.

According to the senior Israeli official, Israel will convey to the French ambassador its disappointment and dissatisfaction over France's vote. However, Israel will relay a wider message of concern over what Jerusalem sees as a deterioration in the ties between Israel and France since peace talks with the Palestinians derailed last April.

Israel's Foreign Ministry has been closely following the deteriorating relations between the two countries, and even held a special meeting on the matter two weeks ago. A source who took part in the meeting said participants conveyed a sense that France is less attuned to Israel's positions on the Palestinian matter.

Moreover, over the past three months the Foreign Ministry has identified several incidents - events, delegations, and planned collaborations with French bodies - that were canceled in the last minute. Among these were a Paris conference of Israeli and French high-tech companies and a visit by a delegation of French lawyers in Israel.

The senior official said that in each of these cases a different reason was given, and that on the face of it they were unconnected. It is also unclear if the French government was behind the cancellations. However, the overall impression is that of deteriorating relations. "There is a sense that the French are trying to link the progress in the peace process to the promotion of bilateral ties with Israel," the official said.

In addition to these incidents, there is also the recent vote in the French parliament calling on the government to recognize the Palestinian state, as well as the French initiative to formulate a Security Council resolution setting a timetable for an Israeli Palestinian permanent peace treaty with a framework for the negotiations on the core issues such as borders and Jerusalem. The driving force between these two initiatives was French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.

This initiative was received and the apparent collaboration between France and the Palestinians with hostility in Israel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu even called French President François Hollande three weeks ago, and asked him to thwart Fabius' initiatives.

"I told Hollande that I think this move is a negative one and will backfire," Netanyahu told reports after meeting with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry in Rome. "Such a move is contrary to a peace agreement, it will thwart all future negotiations and bring about an escalation," Netanyahu said. He added: "Hollande listened, and I don't want to say what he said, but I said things very clearly."
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: khofo January 08, 2015, 06:21:39 PM
First of all, freedom of speech is an illusion, it does not exist, it only exists in the minds of the deluded.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/25/muhammadcartoons.comment (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/25/muhammadcartoons.comment)
Second, this is fishy from the beginning, why they carried this out at this specific date(the beginning of 2015). The last time the newspaper published a cartoon about Muhammad was in 2012? So they have 2 years of planing?

 I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, although I don't usually believe everything told by the media, but let's go back a week earlier and read this news article.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.634733 (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.634733)
As I said something is fishy here.


They hold the rifles like american training like the hand in on top of barrel this is used also in competition shooting thus the precise grouping on the police car windshield also we can notice some serious military training like they aren't in each others way (djihadist usual tactic :')) and shooting semiautomatic and not full auto like usually done by djihadists ( I am not saying they were trained by americans just that they hold it right too right..) A pic of the bullet grouping below:


(http://i.imgur.com/gPzdn7f.jpg)
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: Pak_Track January 10, 2015, 11:52:52 PM

They hold the rifles like american training like the hand in on top of barrel this is used also in competition shooting thus the precise grouping on the police car windshield also we can notice some serious military training like they aren't in each others way (djihadist usual tactic :')) and shooting semiautomatic and not full auto like usually done by djihadists ( I am not saying they were trained by americans just that they hold it right too right..) A pic of the bullet grouping below:


(http://i.imgur.com/gPzdn7f.jpg)

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/01/10/392443/CIA-carried-out-Paris-attack-Roberts
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: khofo January 11, 2015, 01:27:37 AM
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/01/10/392443/CIA-carried-out-Paris-attack-Roberts


Hey Pak

Yup heard about it too, but like I don't like getting into these stuff cz you'll fund a lot of conspiracies and plots and extremely complicated things in politics and I like tangible things these theories I do not deny them but I like to always stay on the side of the facts and thanks for the link though
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: Pak_Track January 11, 2015, 01:46:21 AM
Hey Pak

Yup heard about it too, but like I don't like getting into these stuff cz you'll fund a lot of conspiracies and plots and extremely complicated things in politics and I like tangible things these theories I do not deny them but I like to always stay on the side of the facts and thanks for the link though

Indeed.
You just can't know for sure about what to believe.
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: Zobrist January 12, 2015, 05:59:58 PM
You should differentiate between real Islam and extremist Islam. Terror has no place in Islam but I believe Charlie deserved what happen. when you sarcastically mock and insult other's believes, you are enraging them and attracting extremism. Things can not just be justified by freedom of speech because there is always Red lines. we would really see Charlie making fun of  Jews, The Holocaust and Antisemitism. That never happened because those are the Red lines.
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: Pak_Track January 12, 2015, 06:06:15 PM
You should differentiate between real Islam and extremist Islam. Terror has no place in Islam but I believe Charlie deserved what happen. when you sarcastically mock and insult other's believes, you are enraging them and attracting extremism. Things can not just be justified by freedom of speech because there is always Red lines. we would really see Charlie making fun of  Jews, The Holocaust and Antisemitism. That never happened because those are the Red lines.

Abuse of Freedom of Speech may be wrong, but Islam still doesn't allow killing anyone for mockery.
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: khofo January 14, 2015, 02:09:41 AM
You should differentiate between real Islam and extremist Islam. Terror has no place in Islam but I believe Charlie deserved what happen. when you sarcastically mock and insult other's believes, you are enraging them and attracting extremism. Things can not just be justified by freedom of speech because there is always Red lines. we would really see Charlie making fun of  Jews, The Holocaust and Antisemitism. That never happened because those are the Red lines.

U people should fucking choose either with or against the killing u xan't say I am not with what they did ans the killing but they deserved it's hypocrisy. And they can't make jokes about antisemitism bcz in french law it's forbidden and plus they did not make fun of islam they made fun of extremists and how stupidly they understand religion whereas they made fun of jesus and Christianity and there they do mock religion
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: Spacecow January 14, 2015, 05:06:42 AM
A) Why is this not in the religion or whatever section it belongs in.
B) You do realize that Christians did this same kinda shit not long ago?
C) I enjoy watching video of them shooting at each other.
D) No matter what you want or think your best bet is to just get use to it because your tax money is helping fun these crazy jihadists (who BTW we taught how to wage jihad)

Evil people will always exist in this world and pinning it on a whole race/religion/country does nothing but bread fear and hatred while letting people in control gain more power over us in the name of security. K can we go back to posting funny cat pictures now :)
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: HTH January 14, 2015, 09:01:42 AM
A) Why is this not in the religion or whatever section it belongs in.
B) You do realize that Christians did this same kinda shit not long ago?
C) I enjoy watching video of them shooting at each other.
D) No matter what you want or think your best bet is to just get use to it because your tax money is helping fun these crazy jihadists (who BTW we taught how to wage jihad)

Evil people will always exist in this world and pinning it on a whole race/religion/country does nothing but bread fear and hatred while letting people in control gain more power over us in the name of security. K can we go back to posting funny cat pictures now :)

I too am terrified of the loafy menace.