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Hacking and Security => Hacking and Security => : 420 April 29, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
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I'm sure someone has posted this, but this is my ideas on hacking, and just briefly explaining it.
I. Hacking
Hacking is not only breaching servers, stealing financial information, or swatting someone's home. Hacking is having intellectual interest into technology, but the word, "hacking" is a very broad word. It's hard to constitute it, the word hacking is an idea, requires a mindset, a mentality. You do not need to be incredibly smart in math or science to learn how to program, or hack. You need to be patient and be willing to listen and learn, and the most important thing, to accept criticism, accept it, learn from your mistakes. Hacking and programming takes a long time, and you'll never know everything, you'll never be the best, there will always be someone better than you, someone to point you out on mistakes, you need to just accept it, and learn from it.
II. Hackers
There are different types of hackers, hackers with different intents. Essentially it's based up in two groups, ethical and bad hackers. But specifically there are three groupes of hackers, white-hat, grey-hat, black-hat. But a hacker can always be independent, no need to set yourself into one of the groups if it doesn't fit your style, and your intents.
White-hat hackers are generally the people with good intentions, to help and inform the less educated individuals, they are more likely to help you out with computers, they usually have good morals. And make software to help you out, they pentest with authorization. They stop bad hackers, they work for companies and possibly the governments.
These people usually have mixed intentions, sometimes they'll help you out, mostly for money. They'll help you for something legal or illegal. They might do a prank, which could be illegal. Or they might be hired to pentest a website. Grey-hat is essentially a mix of white-hat and black-hat.
These hackers have only bad intentions, they have no intent to help you out, or do some legal pentesting. They'll attack for the reasons of, financial gain, political reasons, or for a laugh. They'll go after you, they'll always be a bug to the hacking community, they'll always be a problem to society.
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.o0 me thinks copy - pasting from a word document needs to be formatted afterwords.
morning exercise
I. Hacking
Hacking is not only breaching servers, stealing financial information, or swatting someone's home. Hacking is having intellectual interest into technology, but the word, "hacking" is a very broad word. It's hard to constitute it, the word hacking is an idea, requires a mindset, a mentality. You do not need to be incredibly smart in math or science to learn how to program, or hack. You need to be patient and be willing to listen and learn, and the most important thing, to accept criticism, accept it, learn from your mistakes. Hacking and programming takes a long time, and you'll never know everything, you'll never be the best, there will always be someone better than you, someone to point you out on mistakes, you need to just accept it, and learn from it.
II. Hackers
There are different types of hackers, hackers with different intents. Essentially it's based up in two groups, ethical and bad hackers. But specifically there are three groupes of hackers, white-hat, grey-hat, black-hat. But a hacker can always be independent, no need to set yourself into one of the groups if it doesn't fit your style, and your intents.
White-hat hackers are generally the people with good intentions, to help and inform the less educated individuals, they are more likely to help you out with computers, they usually have good morals. And make software to help you out, they pentest with authorization. They stop bad hackers, they work for companies and possibly the governments.
These people usually have mixed intentions, sometimes they'll help you out, mostly for money. They'll help you for something legal or illegal. They might do a prank, which could be illegal. Or they might be hired to pentest a website. Grey-hat is essentially a mix of white-hat and black-hat.
These hackers have only bad intentions, they have no intent to help you out, or do some legal pentesting. They'll attack for the reasons of, financial gain, political reasons, or for a laugh. They'll go after you, they'll always be a bug to the hacking community, they'll always be a problem to society.
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Check anywhere, no copy part where.
I've only posted this on nulled and here.
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Yeah i see you also jacked up the formatting there. I am not saying your copying someones work, Im saying that the editor you originally typed it up in and then pasted into the forum jacked up the formatting. No biggie, especially if you dont care.
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Yeah i see you also jacked up the formatting there. I am not saying your copying someones work, Im saying that the editor you originally typed it up in and then pasted into the forum jacked up the formatting. No biggie, especially if you dont care.
I fixed it :)
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This is the sort of shit you find on a blog with a picture of a blue key with binary digits moving across the screen written by Prashanthan Nagasawarna. Seriously, enough with the:
- What is hacker
- Grey Hat
- White Hat
- Black Hat
Don't even think about saying "It's for those that don't understand".
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I'm sure someone has posted this, but this is my ideas on hacking, and just briefly explaining it.
I. Hacking
Hacking is not only breaching servers, stealing financial information, or swatting someone's home. Hacking is having intellectual interest into technology, but the word, "hacking" is a very broad word. It's hard to constitute it, the word hacking is an idea, requires a mindset, a mentality. You do not need to be incredibly smart in math or science to learn how to program, or hack. You need to be patient and be willing to listen and learn, and the most important thing, to accept criticism, accept it, learn from your mistakes. Hacking and programming takes a long time, and you'll never know everything, you'll never be the best, there will always be someone better than you, someone to point you out on mistakes, you need to just accept it, and learn from it.
II. Hackers
There are different types of hackers, hackers with different intents. Essentially it's based up in two groups, ethical and bad hackers. But specifically there are three groupes of hackers, white-hat, grey-hat, black-hat. But a hacker can always be independent, no need to set yourself into one of the groups if it doesn't fit your style, and your intents.
White-hat hackers are generally the people with good intentions, to help and inform the less educated individuals, they are more likely to help you out with computers, they usually have good morals. And make software to help you out, they pentest with authorization. They stop bad hackers, they work for companies and possibly the governments.
These people usually have mixed intentions, sometimes they'll help you out, mostly for money. They'll help you for something legal or illegal. They might do a prank, which could be illegal. Or they might be hired to pentest a website. Grey-hat is essentially a mix of white-hat and black-hat.
These hackers have only bad intentions, they have no intent to help you out, or do some legal pentesting. They'll attack for the reasons of, financial gain, political reasons, or for a laugh. They'll go after you, they'll always be a bug to the hacking community, they'll always be a problem to society.
GG. Waayyyy too long to post, I just saw colours of hackers and I thought... 5 minutes on google with "Hacker" in the search bar. (Maybe would have read if it wasn't the basics!)
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Can u guys tell me how to hack oac mmorpg game. Box hack and damaga hack
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Can u guys tell me how to hack oac mmorpg game. Box hack and damaga hack
You eat it with fried chicken.
Gtfo. Make your own BoS thread
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You eat it with fried chicken.
Gtfo. Make your own BoS thread
What is the hacking world turning into?
Why can't anyone do "proper" research?
Why is google like a demon to many?
Why is the internet producing so many skids?
This seems to be a huge issue. I Really do not get why people are to lazy to research this art. Yet they want to be l33t hackers. It just doesn't work that way. It takes years to master this skill(and you still won't know everything), and it isn't something that is from outer space, the concepts are not discovered by aliens. Anyone can properly understand the concept.
But using the book knowledge you learn is another ball game, you have to be made for it. It has to be a passion. Anyone here should be able to agree with this.
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What is the hacking world turning into?
Why can't anyone do "proper" research?
Why is google like a demon to many?
Why is the internet producing so many skids?
This seems to be a huge issue. I Really do not get why people are to lazy to research this art. Yet they want to be l33t hackers. It just doesn't work that way. It takes years to master this skill(and you still won't know everything), and it isn't something that is from outer space, the concepts are not discovered by aliens. Anyone can properly understand the concept.
But using the book knowledge you learn is another ball game, you have to be made for it. It has to be a passion. Anyone here should be able to agree with this.
BS..... Just download LOIC and you wil be l33t in no time bro..... LOLZ
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What is the hacking world turning into?
Why can't anyone do "proper" research?
Why is google like a demon to many?
Why is the internet producing so many skids?
This seems to be a huge issue. I Really do not get why people are to lazy to research this art. Yet they want to be l33t hackers. It just doesn't work that way. It takes years to master this skill(and you still won't know everything), and it isn't something that is from outer space, the concepts are not discovered by aliens. Anyone can properly understand the concept.
But using the book knowledge you learn is another ball game, you have to be made for it. It has to be a passion. Anyone here should be able to agree with this.
Well said, indeed. +1
BS..... Just download LOIC and you wil be l33t in no time bro..... LOLZ
A recipe for skids
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A recipe for skids
Does this mean I don't get a cookie :(
lol
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What is the hacking world turning into?
Why can't anyone do "proper" research?
Why is google like a demon to many?
Why is the internet producing so many skids?
This seems to be a huge issue. I Really do not get why people are to lazy to research this art. Yet they want to be l33t hackers. It just doesn't work that way. It takes years to master this skill(and you still won't know everything), and it isn't something that is from outer space, the concepts are not discovered by aliens. Anyone can properly understand the concept.
But using the book knowledge you learn is another ball game, you have to be made for it. It has to be a passion. Anyone here should be able to agree with this.
I don't think they want to learn it . They are just looking for the HACK BUTTON ..
Could always make it harder to register for the forum.. Maybe make it to so they need to crack a hash instead of generate one ? Might get less "how do i hack" posts
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I don't think they want to learn it . They are just looking for the HACK BUTTON ..
Could always make it harder to register for the forum.. Maybe make it to so they need to crack a hash instead of generate one ? Might get less "how do i hack" posts
Lack of knowledge is not the problem, it's the poor attitude and distorted view of hacking that's the problem
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I think it's quite easy to explain the skid flood we are experiencing. Apart from what you all have mentioned, it's the increasing focus on results and not the way of accomplishing something, which is - to some extend - due to the globalized competition among individuals that we are experiencing in the last few years. At the end of the day, people who care about research and deep knowledge get rare, while the amount of people who become skids dramatically increases. Plus, we notice them more and more, since they get dumber and dumber. You know what I mean.
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(old man talking) Back in the day skids knew how to use and find a scripts to cut corners.
This new breed are not even skid level.
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BS..... Just download LOIC and you wil be l33t in no time bro..... LOLZ
I should make a backdoored skid tool that reports them to the FBI.
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I should make a backdoored skid tool that reports them to the FBI.
In eastern europen standarts that would be something like being rat.
It would be better to use more challenging registration like white-knight mentioned before.
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Could admins implement another feature on registration? Something that would require the user to use GOOGLE to answer?
Also i read in a thread about Pak_Track's suggestion to add a checkbox "you are interested in free pro hacker services to do your work" and when user checks it, on submitting, ban the user. That ought to filter out these new breed of skids..jeez
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In eastern europen standarts that would be something like being rat.
It would be better to use more challenging registration like white-knight mentioned before.
I second his idea. There are still plenty of skid tools for cracking hashes but it would be a harder task for skids than just making a hash.
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I second his idea. There are still plenty of skid tools for cracking hashes but it would be a harder task for skids than just making a hash.
Evidently i got my period for the first time this month, so ive been uhh hostile. That said i dont think the question is the issue, or that it is SO easy to get from so many different ways. It SHOULD be. This is a site about learning, yes we want to keep out skids, which wouldnt be hard(just set a problem they would HAVE to work out the hard way), but it would also keep out the complete novices that really do want to learn. Some of these have stayed for a while and left, others have been here years, came in with little to no knowledge, but were thirsty and grew. It is something this site really does want to foster, that we CANT if we make the question to hard. You should be able to google foo or grab a program to do the heavy lifting to get initial access. To me especially going the google route is not a bad thing(maybe partially because that was the route i chose :p) but knowing how to frame a problem to make it quickly solvable is very much so a hacker skill. Their is absolutely a time to reinvent the wheel, and their is a time to just grab an octagon, shrug and say close enough. So we should i think continue to let anyone with more intellect than a squirrel in, and continue the "hazing" process to help weed out undesirables. Not to mention at times that very hazing process has helped correct a few "bad" members and turn them into good ones. The way we do things now may sometimes be bothersome (ok a lot of times :p), but it does have the benefit of bringing in a far wider range of experience and skill sets then preemptively setting "trick" questions or questions only solvable by someone experienced in that area.
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Evidently i got my period for the first time this month, so ive been uhh hostile. That said i dont think the question is the issue, or that it is SO easy to get from so many different ways. It SHOULD be. This is a site about learning, yes we want to keep out skids, which wouldnt be hard(just set a problem they would HAVE to work out the hard way), but it would also keep out the complete novices that really do want to learn. Some of these have stayed for a while and left, others have been here years, came in with little to no knowledge, but were thirsty and grew. It is something this site really does want to foster, that we CANT if we make the question to hard. You should be able to google foo or grab a program to do the heavy lifting to get initial access. To me especially going the google route is not a bad thing(maybe partially because that was the route i chose :p) but knowing how to frame a problem to make it quickly solvable is very much so a hacker skill. Their is absolutely a time to reinvent the wheel, and their is a time to just grab an octagon, shrug and say close enough. So we should i think continue to let anyone with more intellect than a squirrel in, and continue the "hazing" process to help weed out undesirables. Not to mention at times that very hazing process has helped correct a few "bad" members and turn them into good ones. The way we do things now may sometimes be bothersome (ok a lot of times :p), but it does have the benefit of bringing in a far wider range of experience and skill sets then preemptively setting "trick" questions or questions only solvable by someone experienced in that area.
+1
I vote to continue the hazing of skids then.
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You also can read HTBH (http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html) by Eric Raymond.
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sometime it happens you can't find something in google and you have to ask someone on a forum, after getting some replies eventually there will be someone telling you that they found the answer on google and that the next time you should do the research better. but the problem is that someone who doesn't know english quiet well, they are going to have a hard time to search the right words to get what they want. i personally am still a skid who doesn't want to do the actual work and wants something ready to be used, and i personally think that it's the wrong way to go and i know that. but laziness doesn't let me do it, i don't know i can't deal with laziness. the whole day i'm thinking: "later i'm going to do some programming and maybe read some books", well guess what at the end of the day i don't and i really feel guilty. i just don't know what's wrong or how to deal with it. and to be honest, i like to have that skill to be a hacker, but i'm spending too much of my time in entertainment and i just feel like i can't quit that bitch.
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What is the hacking world turning into?
Why can't anyone do "proper" research?
Why is google like a demon to many?
Why is the internet producing so many skids?
This seems to be a huge issue. I Really do not get why people are to lazy to research this art. Yet they want to be l33t hackers. It just doesn't work that way. It takes years to master this skill(and you still won't know everything), and it isn't something that is from outer space, the concepts are not discovered by aliens. Anyone can properly understand the concept.
But using the book knowledge you learn is another ball game, you have to be made for it. It has to be a passion. Anyone here should be able to agree with this.
I think it largely comes down to ethos, and a genuine desire to learn, or the lack thereof. From my perspective, hacking is all about the journey. It's the struggle of trying to understand something in depth, or trying to get something to work, and the whole process of the undertaking that ultimately leads to the end result. For skiddies, it's all about the end result, the process doesn't matter at all. If a button that says "EZ" can be clicked and a desired end result can be achieved, that's all that matters.
I think all humans generally prefer things to be easy rather than hard, but a certain percentage of humans just have a genuine curiosity. A deep yearning for understanding how the world works, their place in it, and how they can change it for the better, whether it be subjectively or objectively. Skiddies do not have such personalities or characters.
Whether the amount of people with a lack of that greater yearning has increased vastly because of how technology has advanced exponentially in the last century or not is up for debate. I think it's very true that among the general population, the vast majority of people just want things to work, and don't care how it works, just that it does. And this doesn't just apply to hacking, it applies to pretty much everything. The percentage of humans with that deep drive to understand is very low I think, and I think it's historically true. If you look back through history at the people who have made great scientific discoveries, they were very few and far between in relation to the masses of humanity. While most people were content to unquestionably accept the notion that the Earth was flat, Eratosthenes read about shadows in a book, and curiosity and the desire to know drove him to discover that the Earth was round.
I think the best thing ultimately is to just ignore the skiddies, and focus on learning. After all, all those people that thought the Earth was flat are long forgotten, but Eratosthenes' name is in many books.
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You talked about criticism, well this post is useless. This is like what everyone here knows, it's been covered in multiple stickies and it's like the basic thing u see when u type hacking on google. So I know it took time and it's an effort u made and I appreciate that but nonetheless it's a useless post