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Programming and Scripting => Beginner's Corner => : warlock91 July 22, 2015, 02:57:26 PM

: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: warlock91 July 22, 2015, 02:57:26 PM
Grabbed a couple books on Xcode but failed to realize that it's a language for Macs  :-[
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: gray-fox July 22, 2015, 05:40:14 PM
Most likely os x virtualization is your best/only option.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: warlock91 July 22, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
Ah, thanks. Thought it was gonna be something troublesome like that.

Luckily I have some old towers that I can use.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: spanko August 07, 2015, 05:35:06 AM
Xcode is not a language but an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) its a program that helps you do edit and debug your code.  Any language you can program on OS X you can also on linux or windows.  I'm assuming the books you got were on Objective-C.  The first few chapters may talk about setting up Xcode but just skip over those if you are using a different IDE.  Check out gcc to compile any other Objective-C program.  If you really did pick up a book to learn how to operate Xcode exclusively but can't run it on your system just don't learn it is my advice.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: warlock91 August 09, 2015, 07:54:51 PM
Xcode is not a language but an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) its a program that helps you do edit and debug your code.  Any language you can program on OS X you can also on linux or windows.  I'm assuming the books you got were on Objective-C.  The first few chapters may talk about setting up Xcode but just skip over those if you are using a different IDE.  Check out gcc to compile any other Objective-C program.  If you really did pick up a book to learn how to operate Xcode exclusively but can't run it on your system just don't learn it is my advice.

So you're saying these are just books on debugging? These are the books I have, they were recommended to me as a starting point for learning programming.

Become An Xcoder
Beginning Xcode
Xcode 3 Unleashed

So you're saying these are just books on debugging?
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: IamMe August 10, 2015, 04:14:14 PM
First off, you haven't kicked up programming yet, at least the basics.....what have you been doing since cause i remembered this was you asking for c++ starter books https://evilzone.org/programming-newbies/got-my-hands-on-a-c-book-just-wondering-if-it-will-do (https://evilzone.org/programming-newbies/got-my-hands-on-a-c-book-just-wondering-if-it-will-do)

Second, since telling you won't do the trick(spanko tried and you still didn't listen) read this from apple dev page
https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ide (https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ide)
or at wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode)

Third, dude xcode3, when you wanna start something at least try doing a little bit of research on it(i guess that bundles everything i wrote RESEARCH), xcode3 is outdated, presently yosemite came out with xcode6 now elcapitano, ios9 is coming out with xcode7 (though they all out already) so you better get a book updated with xcode6 and above

Finally, if you want a piece of advice i guess you should just start with python3 (Note: i'm a java dev) there are books on it in the ebook section
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: warlock91 August 10, 2015, 05:18:48 PM
First off, you haven't kicked up programming yet, at least the basics.....what have you been doing since cause i remembered this was you asking for c++ starter books https://evilzone.org/programming-newbies/got-my-hands-on-a-c-book-just-wondering-if-it-will-do (https://evilzone.org/programming-newbies/got-my-hands-on-a-c-book-just-wondering-if-it-will-do)

Second, since telling you won't do the trick(spanko tried and you still didn't listen) read this from apple dev page
https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ide (https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ide)
or at wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcode)

Third, dude xcode3, when you wanna start something at least try doing a little bit of research on it(i guess that bundles everything i wrote RESEARCH), xcode3 is outdated, presently yosemite came out with xcode6 now elcapitano, ios9 is coming out with xcode7 (though they all out already) so you better get a book updated with xcode6 and above

Finally, if you want a piece of advice i guess you should just start with python3 (Note: i'm a java dev) there are books on it in the ebook section

Ah, well, thanks for being patient with me IamMe. I'm the type of person that likes to gather as much information as possible before taking any steps. I'll check out that wiki page. And good looks for letting me know about Xcode3 being outdated.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: rogue.hackz September 30, 2015, 05:31:02 PM
Or try it the hard way: VIM jk.

Btw you might want to check out pycharm, it's pretty good python IDE.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: warlock91 October 01, 2015, 11:38:36 PM
I wasn't asking for a python IDE but ok...
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: lolwut October 04, 2015, 05:11:39 AM
Finally, if you want a piece of advice i guess you should just start with python3 (Note: i'm a java dev) there are books on it in the ebook section

No, start with Java if you want to move to Objective C eventually.

Or better yet (assuming you have no programming experience) start with going through some courses the following topics -

Discrete Mathematics - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-042j-mathematics-for-computer-science-fall-2010/ (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-042j-mathematics-for-computer-science-fall-2010/)
Intro to Computer Science - https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-computer-science-harvardx-cs50x (https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-computer-science-harvardx-cs50x)
More Into to computer science (Object Oriented stuff) - http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/Syllabus/ (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/Syllabus/)

After that you should be fine for any language really.
: Re: Any way to practice Xcode on a PC?
: dec January 01, 2016, 09:35:19 PM
To get back to the original question:
Most likely os x visualization is your best/only option.

OS X visualization is the only option. However only pc's with specific hard ware will work. An intel CPU is required. There's a huge community at: http://www.tonymacx86.com/

Visualization is a more difficult than just dual booting in my opinion. But it's up to your needs.