EvilZone
General Tech => Operating System => : codder_227 February 02, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
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Hey y'all
A week ago I installed Linux Mint on my old Notebook.
Today, it crashed the 5th time in 1 hour >:(
So I choose to test a better OS than Mint. I looked at Distrowatch.com and found a few really nice
looking distros, but I want to hear your advice, too.
Which Linux would you recommend? And whats your favorite?
Nice evening,
coder.
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If you are new to *nix, I would recommend Ubuntu as it is very user friendly and will be a good gradual introduction to the *nix environment.
If you are bit more skilled and have some experience with *nix, then I would say go for either Debian or Arch. Arch is lightweight and can be customized to your precise needs, but it can be kind of a hassle to install and will definitely take some time configuring things. Also, arch has a pretty awesome forums/wiki that can help you a ton when you get issues. On the other hand, Debian is as stable as an Asian husband and the packages are well integrated, making it more robust.
Of course, BSD is another route to consider, but I've got almost no experience so the only two cents I can give on that is to consider all of the possible choices, even if it isn't Linux.
Good luck finding your flavor! ;)
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How old is laptop? Do you get any error messages? Check out maybe its crashing cause you have hardware failure for example overheating or faulty ram... Dont know whats defauld desktop environment of your distro but if needed try more ligweight desktop environment like xfce and lxde.
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I had installed a net-debian (so light), and after update & upgrade , I had changed the repositories to Kali-Sana and installed all extra packages. In a small laptop with something similar to Intel Atom, and no crashed.
regards
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My Laptop is now 5 years old and has n intel pentium processor. :o But it still works with Linux, Windows is on this old baby too slow ;D
Note: It's an Samsung R730 out of 2011
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If you are bit more skilled and have some experience with *nix, then I would say go for either Debian or Arch. Arch is lightweight and can be customized to your precise needs, but it can be kind of a hassle to install and will definitely take some time configuring things. Also, arch has a pretty awesome forums/wiki that can help you a ton when you get issues.
As well: plethora of packages and helpful folks on #archlinux / mailing list. Currently I'm running it on Dell Precision M70 and it's blazingly fast. As zombie said, Arch might be a hassle at times but what you learn solving those occasional problems definitely won't hurt you.
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https://evilzone.org/operating-system/an-informal-guide-to-linux-distributions-for-the-unwashed-hacker/
My opinion -> Slackware or Arch Linux with a light GUI like i3
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If it kept crashing that much, there is something else wrong. I wouldn't blame Mint on that, I have mint installed on my wifes and my sister-in-laws laptops now for 3+ years with no issues.
You should first look into what was causing the crashing. Not doing so is just lazy and you will get no where with linux if you are too lazy to troubleshoot.
With that said, I recommend Mint for new users. If your too lazy and want to judge it based on your own ignorance then go back to windows.
The only other distro I recommend that isn't debian based is Arch, but if your having such a hard time with Mint I REALLY doubt you have balls enough for Arch.
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I too recommended arch. It is difficult to start but eventually you will learn a lot and have a stable working distro. Stable untill an update breaks something. But it is pretty fast repaired. I will go with arch from now. Have a new second hand laptop and i will install arch on it. It is very very well documented. Debian is good too.
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take a look at ubuntu mate,its good for starters in linux
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I highly recommend mint 17.3 xfce as a starter distro. rock solid and regularly updated - cant fault it
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I would go with Debian, stable and easy to use, all in all. Stay away from Ubuntu, it's bloated with useless things and it spies on you.
Happy hacking ;)
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I would go with Debian, stable and easy to use, all in all. Stay away from Ubuntu, it's bloated with useless things and it spies on you.
Happy hacking ;)
Show me the evidence , the only incident of which I am aware is the search queries in the desktop thingy being uploaded to 'enhance' it , this is no longer the case iirc.
Afaik there is no proof against ubuntu or the company behind it nor do they really earn such acquisition.
The server edition is perfectly fine to work with , quickly patched , new features ,solid etc.
It is unlikely though that them kids here need to run a server park, for this reason I would also suggest something other than ubuntu but it isnt a bad place to start.
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That there are a lot of "useless" applications is evident the moment you install it. Of course what's useless to me could be useful to you, so I speak only for me. For what concerns the queries being uploaded to "enhance" the OS and the ads showed to you, I simply don't trust them anymore since they introduced that feature. I see it as a betrayal of the philosophy behind GNU/Linux. Surely you can say they somehow have the right to do so since Ubuntu is their product, but I don't feel like trusting Canonical as of now. Nor I feel like recommending it.
Just my two cents obviously, feel free to disagree.
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That there are a lot of "useless" applications is evident the moment you install it. Of course what's useless to me could be useful to you, so I speak only for me. For what concerns the queries being uploaded to "enhance" the OS and the ads showed to you, I simply don't trust them anymore since they introduced that feature. I see it as a betrayal of the philosophy behind GNU/Linux. Surely you can say they somehow have the right to do so since Ubuntu is their product, but I don't feel like trusting Canonical as of now. Nor I feel like recommending it.
Just my two cents obviously, feel free to disagree.
I don't like it either but then again who the hell would use the desktop edition :P
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I don't like it either but then again who the hell would use the desktop edition :P
I used to and I'll go to the board of shame to atone for my sins now xD
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I used to and I'll go to the board of shame to atone for my sins now xD
GNU/Freesoftware/fanboy/"real hacker"/nerds like us, aside, Ubuntu/Mint/User friendly distros are a good thing for new people. I put my wife on Mint and she is happy, I am happy, and it's all good. Yeah she doesn't use half of the packages or most of anything that it has, or even knows the first thing about Linux. But she is happy to use it, she has Netflix, the shit I dl for her and webbrowsing, because that's all she ever did on Windows.
I'm happy, my network is happy, I can ssh into her shit and do updates and manage her shit and fix any issues that might happen. So it's all good.
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GNU/Freesoftware/fanboy/"real hacker"/nerds like us, aside, Ubuntu/Mint/User friendly distros are a good thing for new people. I put my wife on Mint and she is happy, I am happy, and it's all good. Yeah she doesn't use half of the packages or most of anything that it has, or even knows the first thing about Linux. But she is happy to use it, she has Netflix, the shit I dl for her and webbrowsing, because that's all she ever did on Windows.
I'm happy, my network is happy, I can ssh into her shit and do updates and manage her shit and fix any issues that might happen. So it's all good.
Yeah, you are right after all. User friendly doesn't necessarily mean "shit" if it helps people who are not tech savvy enough... OT: didn't notice the python zen signature, that's cool!
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I use Linux on desktop, so I will talk about those. I've used slackware, puppy, opensuse, arch, blackarch, archbang, debian, kali, ubuntu, mint, and probably some others that I can't think of off the top of my head. I'll tell you that you should use what works for you. I primarily use my system for programming, security research, web browsing, and office activities. I don't have a need for gaming or video editing or whatever. The thing that's most important for me is having the libraries, repositories, and tools that I need for security and coding easily accessible.
That being said, I am currently on kali rolling. I wipe my drive with dban once every 3 months, and I quite simply don't want to deal with re-installing all the libraries, repositories, tools, etc. Install, harden, load up all my homebrew tools and configs, and I'm good to go in a day. I started learning security on a Backtrack VM so most of the tools and scripts that I use have been written with BT and Kali in mind. I also like the bad pass option in kali's full disk encryption.
I have tried doing this with Arch/BlackArch, but there is always something that just doesn't work quite right. Arch is my favorite out of those, I like it a lot because it's just a fun system and pacman makes it fairly easy to use, but as lots of Archers have said, troubleshooting is a big part that system. All ways tinkering with how it works. At this point I'm so tired of troubleshooting/ tinkering and I just don't feel like spending the time. I have bigger projects to work on.
If you use ubuntu/mint check out Pen Testers Framework by Dave Kennedy. Looks like a quick way to get up and rolling.
I even once knew a career criminal that used ubuntu studio because it had the photo editing tools and printer drivers he needed.
I like them all, use what works for you.
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I just found this distro: http://distrowatch.com/lxle
I like it, seems perfect for old computers/ Laptops.
Anyone who tested this one? Would you recommend this one?
Edit: I like the simplicity.
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I just found this distro: http://distrowatch.com/lxle
I like it, seems perfect for old computers/ Laptops.
Anyone who tested this one? Would you recommend this one?
Edit: I like the simplicity.
It drags along the entire cruft from debian and Lubuntu. This means that you have tons of shit no one really needs yet is used by many people. If that's what you want... feel free. I'd rather run arch/slackware/void linux on older hardware (or any hardware really), because those are light, fast, customizable and two of them don't bring in systemd.