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Encyclopedia Galactica => Science => : lucid March 09, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
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There are some things you can do(besides fucking shit up)once you've begun to lucid dream to make your dreams more concrete. This will give you even further control of your dreams and cause them to become even clearer and more real.
I talked to a man once who told me that in his dreaming practices he began to feel like his waking world was just a dream and when he went to sleep was when he really was awake and alive.
A technique you can use if you want to achieve something like this(don't worry nothing is permanent)is to try to maintain focus while lucid dreaming.
What I mean by this is that you must pick an object in the current setting of your dream and focus on it until it becomes clear. This will not happen right away. More likely it will begin to blur and lose focus in a few seconds. When this starts to happen shift your gaze to another object and do the same thing. To start, you should probably limit this technique to no more than four objects. The goal is to do this until you can hold these objects in focus for as long as you wish. I myself have not achieved this to great extent but there are people who have and they will tell you that its essentially "creating a new world in which to master."After enough practice you can do this with as many objects as you want.
Another thing to try is to pick a place in your waking life...preferably a place you've been to. Do your best to remember details of this place although if you've picked a proper spot it shouldn't be hard. For lack of better terminology pick your"happy place." When in a lucid dream you should be able to remember this place(your waking world and your dreaming world are not mutually exclusive). For example I often times have lucid dreams where I am completely aware of the bed that I'm laying in and whose next to me, which side of the bed I am on and so forth. However it doesn't cause the lucid dream to fade away.
Keep in mind that while I am providing actual techniques, this is not a fool-proof process. Lucid dreaming is not something that can be achieved with an equation or formula. These are simply things that can....help it along.
Also don't forget to keep looking at your hands and counting your fingers throughout the day(unless you choose the other technique mentioned in the previous thread)as this will become habit and you will be likely to dream about it.
Happy Dreaming
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You are really taking this very seriously ?
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A member asked me to do another post on more techniques...
And why not. I've had some pretty unbelievable experiences doing this.
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Good for you. I can't this as an important aspect of someone's life. After all, it's not like you are harnessing the power of the universe?. You are talking about "unbelievable experiences", did these experiences had an effect on your life or not, if the answer is yes then elaborate?
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Good for you. I can't this as an important aspect of someone's life. After all, it's not like you are harnessing the power of the universe?. You are talking about "unbelievable experiences", did these experiences had an effect on your life or not, if the answer is yes then elaborate?
I'd say the answer is yes. An example of this would be that one time I was dreaming about driving in the car with my girlfriends sister. I had asked her a question about her sister(my gf) she gave me a whole explanation on my question which was why she acts the way she does....well not exactly but I wont elaborate further considering this is personal information. Anyway the answer she had given me in the dream turned out to be true in real life. So I had gained real knowledge about her based on what I had discovered in a dream. Also I had never met her sister before yet in the dream she and her friends looked like what they do in real life.
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I'd say the answer is yes. An example of this would be that one time I was dreaming about driving in the car with my girlfriends sister. I had asked her a question about her sister(my gf) she gave me a whole explanation on my question which was why she acts the way she does....well not exactly but I wont elaborate further considering this is personal information. Anyway the answer she had given me in the dream turned out to be true in real life. So I had gained real knowledge about her based on what I had discovered in a dream. Also I had never met her sister before yet in the dream she and her friends looked like what they do in real life.
Fair enough. I never knew this could happen in real life
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As fucking lame as this is going to sound, I don't think we've discovered half of what is actually possibly in life.
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As fucking lame as this is going to sound, I don't think we've discovered half of what is actually possibly in life.
True. I think the right way to put it since we are discussing something related to the subconscious mind is like this "we haven't discovered 1/4 of the power of the subconscious mind" not to mention life
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Ah yes. Much better way to put it.
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like the movie Limitless
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<...> I was dreaming about driving in the car with my girlfriends sister.
<...> Also I had never met her sister before yet in the dream she and her friends looked like what they do in real life.
How do you know how she looks in real life if you never met her :P
Also, it was proven by scientists that your mind does not create objects in dreams. Mind does not create human entities from nowhere.
In a dream the mind uses what you had seen and/or experienced in real life, so humans you see in dreams are actual humans in real life that you saw on the street or interacted with etc.
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Moved your 2 posts ;)
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How do you know how she looks in real life if you never met her :P
Also, it was proven by scientists that your mind does not create objects in dreams. Mind does not create human entities from nowhere.
In a dream the mind uses what you had seen and/or experienced in real life, so humans you see in dreams are actual humans in real life that you saw on the street or interacted with etc.
I've met her since then. I suppose you must be right....I guess I'm just easily fooled :o
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A little update, i have been collecting data from 3 days right now, and tonight i am going to enable the reminders.
The reality checks have not yet appeared, but from what i hear on the net that technique is a long period one, and will not get lots of results.
So that's it for now, because of the high results other people experienced i will continue on writing down dreams, doing reality checks and more until i get results.
And after that i am planning on experimenting and writing software to combine technique's i already know (suggestions, subliminal, NLP etc.)
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A little update, i have been collecting data from 3 days right now, and tonight i am going to enable the reminders.
The reality checks have not yet appeared, but from what i hear on the net that technique is a long period one, and will not get lots of results.
So that's it for now, because of the high results other people experienced i will continue on writing down dreams, doing reality checks and more until i get results.
And after that i am planning on experimenting and writing software to combine technique's i already know (suggestions, subliminal, NLP etc.)
Writing down dreams is always a good practive lucid dreaming or not.
I just could never remember to do the right when I woke up...
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Well, you never know... there might be more to this universe then the current science can explain.
I have experienced and witnessed some rather strange things. I think that there must be some kind of supernatural world too.
I mean, how do mothers "know" that something is wrong with their child hundreads of kilometers away? I have heard many stories where people feel when someone very close dies even if he is very far away. Science can't explain that. Also, how would you explain magic? I know, from reliable friends, that some of the "magic" does work... like caling spirits and asking them questions using all kind of boards and so on....
I am just saying that it is possible for supernatural realm to exist.
Anyone else notice any weird things in this world that science cant explain?
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Well, you never know... there might be more to this universe then the current science can explain.
I have experienced and witnessed some rather strange things. I think that there must be some kind of supernatural world too.
I mean, how do mothers "know" that something is wrong with their child hundreads of kilometers away? I have heard many stories where people feel when someone very close dies even if he is very far away. Science can't explain that. Also, how would you explain magic? I know, from reliable friends, that some of the "magic" does work... like caling spirits and asking them questions using all kind of boards and so on....
I am just saying that it is possible for supernatural realm to exist.
Anyone else notice any weird things in this world that science cant explain?
Ofcourse, everything we have not declared true nor false can be true in the end.
But i have been a practitioner of a religion close to the spiritual world, called wicca, i have also been fed up that way.
Tough from all my experiences, i must say that i can give a psychological reason to almost every effect experienced in those ways of the spiritual world.
I believe, in the end its all just our own minds manipulating our own worlds, everything is a creation of the brain(how we see and feel it.)
And the real magic one can power, and master is the control of his own brain.
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And the real magic one can power, and master is the control of his own brain.
True...By very strong and focused mind people are able to lower or increase their body temperature or heart rate, trigger adrenaline release, or even recover from sickness.
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I did it, almost:P. i had a very awkward dream (no details) and in the dream i asked my girlfriend who a strange guy was out of my dream, then everything became vivid, and i started to feel temperature.
But then it faded, i tried to spin around but it did not worked out, i was not lucid enough anymore, then the whole dream faded like some kind of a brain security measure.
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nice factionwars :)
For some reason I am lazy to try... I had quite realistic dreams, but never a fully controlled dream. I doubt it is fully possible. Maybe semi-aware dream, but not fully... because then lucid dreaming would be more popular.... I mean.. that would be better than any game or simulation.. I could do anything I desire without any real life consequences... :)
Anyway, if you succeed, and find it any good, I will do it too.
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nice factionwars :)
For some reason I am lazy to try... I had quite realistic dreams, but never a fully controlled dream. I doubt it is fully possible. Maybe semi-aware dream, but not fully... because then lucid dreaming would be more popular.... I mean.. that would be better than any game or simulation.. I could do anything I desire without any real life consequences... :)
Anyway, if you succeed, and find it any good, I will do it too.
The biggest reason its not as populair as you would imagine is that it takes practice, and not a little.
You will not be able to do it in a few days, weeks or even maybe months.
I even read about people who practiced, and got their first results after a year.
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So, lets say we practice everything proparly for a year or even two... what results can we expect? What level of conciousness in a dream? What level of control? Would it feel like digital virtual reality (VR)?
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I did it, almost:P. i had a very awkward dream (no details) and in the dream i asked my girlfriend who a strange guy was out of my dream, then everything became vivid, and i started to feel temperature.
But then it faded, i tried to spin around but it did not worked out, i was not lucid enough anymore, then the whole dream faded like some kind of a brain security measure.
Punch a hole in that firewall!! :D
@atsuktuvas- It is more possible than you can possibly imagine. Factionwars is right, it takes a lot of practice. It's not the same for everyone but you can expect to see lucid dreams not as dreaming, but as another realm. I mean think about it. Sleeping is a third of your entire life. It is ridiculous to just discount it as a fleeting brain activity.
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Ok, so where do I start?
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Ok, so where do I start?
Read the post? read ld4all.com
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:) you wont believe what happened.
I started writing down dreams and doing reality tests and all kind of other stuff, and, today, after 2 days since starting, I had a weird dream. It was so deep that my alarm clock did not wake me up. However, it felt EXTRA real and, I remembered every detail. It wasn't a lucid dream, because I could not do stuff like fly, I could just do stuff that was supposed to happen in that scenario. However, it was the most vivid dream I ever had. Even a bit weird. It felt so real that when I woke up, it took me like 10 minutes to realise where I am and what is happening. I completely lost the sense of time when I just woke up and only after 10 minutes everything came back to me, that all of it was a dream and that this is real life and so on. Amazing. Never had that before.
Also, the most amazing thing is, my eyes were wet from tears. Lots of tears. The dream was very sad and very touching and I was mourning and crying in the dream, and when I woke up those emotions did not go away for a few hours.
:)
Strange. Weird.
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:) you wont believe what happened.
I started writing down dreams and doing reality tests and all kind of other stuff, and, today, after 2 days since starting, I had a weird dream. It was so deep that my alarm clock did not wake me up. However, it felt EXTRA real and, I remembered every detail. It wasn't a lucid dream, because I could not do stuff like fly, I could just do stuff that was supposed to happen in that scenario. However, it was the most vivid dream I ever had. Even a bit weird. It felt so real that when I woke up, it took me like 10 minutes to realise where I am and what is happening. I completely lost the sense of time when I just woke up and only after 10 minutes everything came back to me, that all of it was a dream and that this is real life and so on. Amazing. Never had that before.
Also, the most amazing thing is, my eyes were wet from tears. Lots of tears. The dream was very sad and very touching and I was mourning and crying in the dream, and when I woke up those emotions did not go away for a few hours.
:)
Strange. Weird.
Dreaming is more tangible than people think it is. Writing down dreams is the best way I know of to stimulate them. I started lucid dreaming before I knew to call it or that anyone else has ever done it. But before they were lucid they were deep and emotional....kinda like your dream :D