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Hacking and Security => Hacking and Security => : ngocminh1704 June 02, 2012, 03:51:50 PM

: Windows or Linux?
: ngocminh1704 June 02, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
Hi guys! I wanted to learn about hacking, coding,programming,...So should i use Linux or Windows?
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: F1.z3ro June 02, 2012, 04:50:32 PM
Either one works.  Which OS do you prefer?  Use that one.


Personally, I use windows, Linux and OS X (yeah, I know....a lot of folks here hate Apple, but I am not one of them).
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: Kulverstukas June 02, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
The question is very abstract. It should be like "what linux distro should I use".
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: m0l0ko June 02, 2012, 10:06:36 PM
I'd say linux. Are you familiar with linux yet? If not, I recommend installing Ubuntu and learning how to use it. When you become familiar with Ubuntu. When you know how to use linux, you can use BackTrack5 which is a distro dedicated entirely to pen testing. Ubuntu made unity the default desktop environment and got rid GNOME though which is a pain in the ass but you can install GNOME on it yourself.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: techb June 02, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
Why not Mint? Win7 really isn't so bad either. And if it came by default might as well keep it just in case and go for a dual boot or VM.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: lucid June 02, 2012, 11:05:57 PM
I say if you have a strong interest in computing you will eventually want to learn a linux. Linux is more involved and it is good to learn how to use a CLI.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: spark June 03, 2012, 12:27:49 AM
  The single most important step any newbie can take toward acquiring hacker skills is to get a copy of Linux or one of the BSD-Unixes or OpenSolaris, install it on a personal machine, and run it.Yes, there are other operating systems in the world besides Unix.  But they're distributed in binary — you can't read the code, and you can't modify it.  Trying to learn to hack on a Microsoft Windows machine or under any other closed-source system is like trying to learn to dance while wearing a body cast.
Under Mac OS X it's possible, but only part of the system is open source — you're likely to hit a lot of walls, and you have to be careful not to develop the bad habit of depending on Apple's proprietary code.  If you concentrate on the Unix under the hood you can learn some useful things.
Unix is the operating system of the Internet.  While you can learn to use the Internet without knowing Unix, you can't be an Internet hacker without understanding Unix.  For this reason, the hacker culture today is pretty strongly Unix-centered. (This wasn't always true, and some old-time hackers still aren't happy about it, but the symbiosis between Unix and the Internet has become strong enough that even Microsoft's muscle doesn't seem able to seriously dent it.)
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html (http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html)
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: offensive June 03, 2012, 02:58:23 AM
Linux is best.

: Re: Windows or Linux?
: m0l0ko June 03, 2012, 03:25:05 AM
Why not Mint? Win7 really isn't so bad either. And if it came by default might as well keep it just in case and go for a dual boot or VM.

Does Mint come with GNOME instead of Unity? If so, I'm switching to Mint. Its a pain in the ass installing GNOME in the newer versions of Ubuntu.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: F1.z3ro June 03, 2012, 03:26:26 AM
Mints not a bad distro.  I personally like Xbuntu.


Does anyone use KDE anymore?
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: techb June 03, 2012, 03:33:41 AM
Does Mint come with GNOME instead of Unity? If so, I'm switching to Mint. Its a pain in the ass installing GNOME in the newer versions of Ubuntu.


GNOME.


Mints not a bad distro.  I personally like Xbuntu.


Does anyone use KDE anymore?


I used KDE for like a week and switched back to GNOME because I was just so used to it.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: lucid June 03, 2012, 03:34:44 AM
Does Mint come with GNOME instead of Unity? If so, I'm switching to Mint. Its a pain in the ass installing GNOME in the newer versions of Ubuntu.

Yes mint is gnome based.

No I don't use KDE but I think people still do yes. It's too big for me. When I was installing Arch it took the better part of an hour to install KDE. I just intalled fluxbox and it took like 2 minutes
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: F1.z3ro June 03, 2012, 04:24:35 AM
I believe Mint comes in a couple of different flavors...including KDE.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: lucid June 03, 2012, 04:52:03 AM
Well arguably any linux comes in different flavors. But a base install of mint will give you a gnome environment
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: L0rd_M@dness June 05, 2012, 07:31:16 AM
well I really like linux and everything but after trying several rootkits, looking at the code and reading some books, I reached the conclusion that no matter how great your knowledge is about linux, you still need some knowledge about windows & other operating systems.
The good thing about linux is that its open source, so you can look at the code and see how it works, and if you possess enough knowledge, maybe even change it a little to your own preference.
However, Windows is the dominant operating system of personal computers. On the internet scale, Linux comes more handy, but on the desktop scale, Windows is more popular thus more worthy of being exploited. I've experienced it that several times, I had a need for hacking a computer/network/etc, but all of them were running Win so all my knowledge about Linux brought me no good.
I'd say, go with a Win7 OS and install Linux on a VM. That's what I do, I have more than 10 virtual Operating systems on my PC, running win7 as the main OS. Black Ubuntu & BackTrack are the popular ones regarding Pen testing and hacking.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: F1.z3ro June 05, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
Well arguably any linux comes in different flavors. But a base install of mint will give you a gnome environment


No, what I meant was you can DL mint with KDE as a default. 
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: Dreamer June 05, 2012, 07:47:41 PM
linux really is best, so much is done for you on windows and even on linux there are less people that make programs for you which would turn you into a 'skid'
Linux takes some learning but it will make you better in my opinion.
there is always cons and pros.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: noob June 06, 2012, 12:51:42 AM
Dual boot:Ubuntu+Windows7
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: lucid June 06, 2012, 01:37:16 AM
Or if you really want to learn about linux then dual boot Arch + Win7
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: sudo_arachnid June 08, 2012, 04:47:34 AM
Id say linux, but thats just me, since linux is open source they have a lot of great communities that will help learn all about how a comp works, and what you need to know.
: Re: Windows or Linux?
: Anon-frost June 08, 2012, 05:23:45 AM
It all depends on your personal opinion. I actually have 3 operating systems installed on different partions of my hard drive and I use each one for different reasons. I am in a situation where no one can know I'm a hacker especially because of who I'm involved with so I usually have a second copy of windows setup as a cover OS.

: Re: Windows or Linux?
: Phage June 09, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
Something is clear if you want to hack computers you can't get past Windows. I will also recommend using windows as your main OS and Linux on a VM or from a flash drive. Do that until you get familiar with it, and then swift to Linux as your Primary OS.