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: 4=5 Is it true?
: Dark Nebulae October 05, 2012, 04:36:51 PM
Everyone knows that 4 can never be equal to 5, but in this proof you can see it.If you think that there is any mistake you can point out.
Proof:
4=4 (all of us will agree, right?)

now multiply both sides with -5, we get

-20 = -20

or 16-36 = 25-45

by adding 81/4 both sides, we get

16-36+81/4=25-45+81/4

or (4-9/2)x(4-9/2) = (5-9/2)x(5-9/2)

Taking square root both sides, we get

(4-9/2)=(5-9/2)


__> 4=5

Hece, prooved
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: p_2001 October 05, 2012, 04:57:24 PM
Hence.UNPROVED
YOU FAIL!
Look carefully mate.. Your are taking square root of NEGATIVE.. AS IN A NEGATIVE.

come on mate.. Since when is the result of a square root negative?
You are doing basic math wrong..
When taking square root it is kept in mind that the expression being taken root of is not negative.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: DangerousLlama October 05, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
Hence.UNPROVED
YOU FAIL!
Look carefully mate.. Your are taking square root of NEGATIVE.. AS IN A NEGATIVE.

come on mate.. Since when is the result of a square root negative?
You are doing basic math wrong..
When taking square root it is kept in mind that the expression being taken root of is not negative.


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: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: p_2001 October 05, 2012, 07:26:43 PM

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In complex numbers it will translate to iShit :)
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Axon October 05, 2012, 11:54:01 PM
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Learn proper mathematical logic before posting hahahaha
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: puddi October 06, 2012, 12:49:10 AM
so does that make pi = 3,15?
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Dark Nebulae October 06, 2012, 09:12:10 AM
Hence.UNPROVED
YOU FAIL!
Look carefully mate.. Your are taking square root of NEGATIVE.. AS IN A NEGATIVE.


When taking square root it is kept in mind that the expression being taken root of is not negative.
Where have I taken the square root of a negative. I think you didn't understood that it was (4-9/2)^2 and (5-9/2)^2.
On taking square root we get (4-9/2)=(5-9/2).
I am not solving the brackets. You understand?
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: p_2001 October 06, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
Where have I taken the square root of a negative. I think you didn't understood that it was (4-9/2)^2 and (5-9/2)^2.
On taking square root we get (4-9/2)=(5-9/2).
I am not solving the brackets. You understand?


I concede defeat. Go have your "proof" published.
Look i explained.. You ought to research it yourself.  I am not going to explain it again.

Somewhere you are wrong, I pointed out out.. Now just post this "proof" on a math forum and see.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Dark Nebulae October 06, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
And the math forum is .........
Well if you are unable to find mistakes, u can say   I am defeated. If u have any queries or u want me to answer the error ,u can post. I am not saying that anyone or you don't know maths , it was just to test if the people are having some basic knowledge.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: p_2001 October 06, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
And the math forum is .........
Well if you are unable to find mistakes, u can say   I am defeated. If u have any queries or u want me to answer the error ,u can post. I am not saying that anyone or you don't know maths , it was just to test if the people are having some basic knowledge.


haha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha rofl lmao...
My my, You're very amusing.. You're so funny

Kid.. I didn't survive my engineering with weak math.

to quote Shakespeare . " I will not enter a battle of wits with an unarmed enemy"


For your own sake i hope you're just trolling.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Dark Nebulae October 06, 2012, 11:06:47 AM

haha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha rofl lmao...
My my, You're very amusing.. You're so funny

Kid.. I didn't survive my engineering with weak math.

to quote Shakespeare . " I will not enter a battle of wits with an unarmed enemy"


For your own sake i hope you're just trolling.


If you are an engineer then why don't u point out a mistake in my proof??????
You are so...............
And on the top of that i am not a kid.If u r more intelligent than a kid then point out the mistake or if u r unable,
just go and take the help of the professor who taught u maths in your engineering. If he is unable,take it to your school teachers and if they are also unable to solve then come to me.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: kateus October 06, 2012, 08:26:38 PM
When you take the square root, you can't just assume that it would be positive. Then you could prove -5=5, -4=4, etc.. because


25=25
sqrt(25) = sqrt(25)
-5=5



so when you take the square root you should actually get absolute values, eg:


|(4-9/2)| = |(5-9/2)| and indeed 1/2 = 1/2
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: noob October 07, 2012, 01:54:50 AM
In python 5 / 2 = 2 .do you know why?
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: relax October 07, 2012, 05:16:51 AM
In python 5 / 2 = 2 .do you know why?

when you divide in python you need atleast one float

:
>>> 5/2
2
>>> 5/float(2)
2.5
>>> float(5)/2
2.5
>>> float(5)/float(2)
2.5
>>> float(5/2)
2.0

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: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Uriah October 07, 2012, 08:43:02 AM
In python 5 / 2 = 2 .do you know why?
Without using a float to make the exact result of the division in decimal points, you just get the nearest whole number as a result. If you take 2 ints you get an int(whole number). if you take 2 floats(decimal), or a float and an int, you get a float.
in simpler terms, 5/2 in python is asking for a whole number. 5.0/2 or 5/2.0 or 5.0/2.0 is asking for a more exact, decimal result.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: noob October 07, 2012, 01:50:19 PM
I know guys,i just asked a wise guy :)
Anyway in new version of python you dont need one number to be a float.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: kateus October 07, 2012, 11:11:15 PM
Without using a float to make the exact result of the division in decimal points, you just get the nearest whole number as a result. If you take 2 ints you get an int(whole number). if you take 2 floats(decimal), or a float and an int, you get a float.
in simpler terms, 5/2 in python is asking for a whole number. 5.0/2 or 5/2.0 or 5.0/2.0 is asking for a more exact, decimal result.


Just wanted to input that in most programming languages it's not the nearest whole number, it is always the lower one. This is because when an int gets assigned something like 1.99 or 1.5 or whatever and it just omits the decimal place and everything after it, so both of these would be 1 as an int.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Uriah October 07, 2012, 11:30:56 PM

Just wanted to input that in most programming languages it's not the nearest whole number, it is always the lower one. This is because when an int gets assigned something like 1.99 or 1.5 or whatever and it just omits the decimal place and everything after it, so both of these would be 1 as an int.
Actually thats true in Python as well. My bad on that one.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Dark Nebulae October 09, 2012, 11:26:42 AM
HEY,hey,hey. I am not solving this in python. I had just posted it not to ask u how python would react to it.Just think over it
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Lionofgod October 10, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
Everyone knows that 4 can never be equal to 5, but in this proof you can see it.If you think that there is any mistake you can point out.
Proof:
4=4 (all of us will agree, right?)

now multiply both sides with -5, we get

-20 = -20

or 16-36 = 25-45

by adding 81/4 both sides, we get

16-36+81/4=25-45+81/4

or (4-9/2)x(4-9/2) = (5-9/2)x(5-9/2)

Taking square root both sides, we get

(4-9/2)=(5-9/2)


__> 4=5

Hece, prooved
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: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: techb October 10, 2012, 01:12:10 PM
Oh I get it. It's like cucumber = potato because if you put mustard on both of them, then remove the skins, add  salt, you get a hand bag. Makes total since now, why haven't I seen the logic before?
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: p_2001 October 10, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
Oh I get it. It's like cucumber = potato because if you put mustard on both of them, then remove the skins, add  salt, you get a hand bag. Makes total since now, why haven't I seen the logic before?

Reverse evolution since Facebook. People trying more retarded each day.
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: kateus October 11, 2012, 05:19:15 AM
HEY,hey,hey. I am not solving this in python. I had just posted it not to ask u how python would react to it.Just think over it

I already posted why your proof was wrong :P

Oh I get it. It's like cucumber = potato because if you put mustard on both of them, then remove the skins, add  salt, you get a hand bag. Makes total since now, why haven't I seen the logic before?

LOL, thats what everything is seeming like these days...
: Re: 4=5 Is it true?
: Stackprotector October 11, 2012, 03:32:49 PM
It's always good to question something stupid i say :D