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Community => General discussion => : hanorotu October 13, 2012, 07:57:10 AM

: That Amanda Todd chick
: hanorotu October 13, 2012, 07:57:10 AM
I talked to her on numerous occasions nothing bad just she was in a lot of the chat rooms I was in about a year ago. She was pretty cool. Hate to see her go like this, but she could have been a bit stronger.

In case you didn't know she is this girl from the the uk I think that offed herself because of cyber bullying. She made a youtube video about a week prior to doing it. It's a tearjerker lol. The video is still up just go to youtube and search for amanda todd it is the one where she is holding the notecards.

Also, everyone needs someone. I don't care who you are. This could have been easily achieved by contacting police and having the guy arrested and put away for a long time. It also might have helped if she would have tits or gtfo'ed in the first place. IF you can't handle the consequences of tits or gtfo then just gtfo.
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: Ragehottie October 13, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
I fucking hate the guy that did this.... this is why we never get tits anymore. Because some /b/tard will make the girl that showed her tits kill herself.... just get the pics of tits and keep them. Jesus Christ.
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: Z3R0 October 13, 2012, 08:53:37 PM
Would you guys say that the internet troll murdered her, in a sense?
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: IFailStuff October 13, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
Would you guys say that the internet troll murdered her, in a sense?

He did have a thing with it to do, but i wouldnt say that he murdered her.


Does anyone know who this guy is? I smell a dox :P


I think someone should of taken care of her... Not letting her continue like that. They also should of done something with that fucking guy...


..I hope he gets tortured
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: Ragehottie October 13, 2012, 09:07:58 PM
He did have a thing with it to do, but i wouldnt say that he murdered her.


Does anyone know who this guy is? I smell a dox :P


I think someone should of taken care of her... Not letting her continue like that. They also should of done something with that fucking guy...


..I hope he gets tortured


I'm down. I couldn't really find him, but I've always wanted to torture someone. And I could sell his organs on the black market :D . Of course Evilzone would get some on the revenue....


And I think that the guy should be charged with manslaughter. Or involuntary manslaughter.
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: silenthunder October 13, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
I've read in a number of places that she was a huge slut and did a lot of stupid things, but that doesn't matter in this situation. It's a terrible thing that someone should be pushed to the point of suicide, and everyone involved with causing her death should be severely prosecuted. I've done some bad things/socially unacceptable things in my life, and then afterwards I was also pushed to the point of suicide.. But I had someone to take care of me. It was only one person, and they never said much, but what they did say clearly helped me though it (or I wouldn't be here), and I'm sure if someone would have been there for her, she would have gotten through it and maybe even changed her ways.
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: IFailStuff October 13, 2012, 10:29:45 PM

I'm down. I couldn't really find him, but I've always wanted to torture someone. And I could sell his organs on the black market :D . Of course Evilzone would get some on the revenue....


And I think that the guy should be charged with manslaughter. Or involuntary manslaughter.

Come on IRC and well see what we can do :)
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: F1.z3ro October 20, 2012, 03:01:25 PM
I think Anonymous is already all over this one.
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: Kulverstukas October 20, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
Would you guys say that the internet troll murdered her, in a sense?
Exactly like that. People that kill themselves because of being trolled on the internet are (forgive me for saying) stupid.
I'm sure people will be all over me with their "senseless faggot" and all, but fucking think about it!
She was too weak to live in this world, only the strongest survive - it's the way of life.
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: Daemon October 20, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
Exactly like that. People that kill themselves because of being trolled on the internet are (forgive me for saying) stupid.
I'm sure people will be all over me with their "senseless faggot" and all, but fucking think about it!
She was too weak to live in this world, only the strongest survive - it's the way of life.

Its true. But its still a bit sad...
Its also sad that people soend so much time worrying about this girl wjhen there are thousands of deaths from drunk driving and other stupid shit as well but only something like this makes the media because its so controversial and makes the internet look bad which fuels the governments ideas for making the internet more restricted...
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: Snayler October 20, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
Exactly like that. People that kill themselves because of being trolled on the internet are (forgive me for saying) stupid.
Anyone who takes his/her own life is stupid and selfish. Life is the most valuable thing each and every one of us have, and ending it purposely is the most selfish act in the sense that the person is only thinking about ending his/her own suffering, without regards to the suffering he/she will be causing to the people who care.
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: p_2001 October 20, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
Anyone who takes his/her own life is stupid and selfish. Life is the most valuable thing each and every one of us have, and ending it purposely is the most selfish act in the sense that the person is only thinking about ending his/her own suffering, without regards to the suffering he/she will be causing to the people who care.


What if someone had no one to care?
What if there is no way to happiness?
What if you're in a situation like being a prisoner of war?

Nah.. Stop being so judgmental and stop quoting books.

try and look at their perspective... Sometimes ending it is better than enduring.


She was too weak to live in this world, only the strongest survive - it's the way of life.


All I'll say is that you lack maturity.. Grow up. You're just quoting away stuff that you don't understand.
Yes, it is the way of life... But being humans that we are.. We have long ago broken the set ways.
If only the strongest survive.. I guess you should just go off yourself and save those stronger than your some trouble?
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: lucid October 20, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
lucid's 0.02$:

I'm going to go ahead and say;

1 - I'm not extremely familiar with this story, however, I will say that this honestly sucks. She did try to move on before just deciding to kill herself and that guy is obviously a piece of shit.

2 - I agree that internet embarrassment is not the worst thing that can happen to someone. The difference, I suppose, is that it affected her real life as well. Although I am still not sure that killing yourself because of something like this is the best move.

3 - This is more of a debate about Amanda Todd than it is a debate about the morals behind suicide and Darwinism. Let's try not to get too mad at each other.
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: Snayler October 20, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
What if someone had no one to care?
There's always someone who cares. If not, make someone out of a volleyball and call it "Wilson".
Stop being so judgmental and stop quoting books.
try and look at their perspective... Sometimes ending it is better than enduring.
Amanda Todd had parents. How about them? Should they accept it? Should they say their daughter did the right thing by killing herself? Suicide is the easy way out, and should never be considered "better than enduring".

I know very well "their perspective", as I've been there. I also know the perspective (and suffering) of those who care.
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: Ragehottie October 21, 2012, 02:06:24 PM
(http://fumaga.com/i/the-world-is-now-your-oyster-advice-from-4chan.png)

This is more or less my view on suicide in general.
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: F1.z3ro October 21, 2012, 06:00:25 PM

[size=78%]try and look at their perspective... Sometimes ending it is better than enduring.[/size]


What was her perspective?  Suicide is selfish, always.  Did she consider her parents?  Friends?  Nope.




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: p_2001 October 21, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
What was her perspective?  Suicide is selfish, always.  Did she consider her parents?  Friends?  Nope.

Parents.. Maybe she did.. I would say she did.. Then?
Look, rather than killing her parents everyday by being depressed she just ended her misery.

I would call it "self euthanasia"

I see people everyday in the street. begging, hungry but desperately clinging to life. Had I been in that place, I would kill myself.

Rather than posting judgments here, you should see that you are not the only one with an opinion. No one wants to die for fun, if someone contemplates it than it isn't for fun.

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: Daemon October 21, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
What was her perspective?  Suicide is selfish, always.  Did she consider her parents?  Friends?  Nope.

 
 No shit suicide is selfish, and yet you say it like it surprises you or its something to be frowned upon simply because its selfish. People are selfish all day every day and yet when a person decides to off themselves they can't be selfish? Think about your day today, I guarantee you did something selfish, something that benefits onky you. Did you buy a starbucks for yourself? Selfish. Did you decide to watch a movie, and you got to pick the movie? Selfish. Human beings are selfish man, I don't see why the death of one would be any different.
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: Snayler October 21, 2012, 07:44:52 PM

Rather than posting judgments here, you should see that you are not the only one with an opinion.
You, sir, are being a hypocrite. You tell others not to be judgemental, yet you're judgemental of other's opinions:

Nah.. Stop being so judgmental and stop quoting books.
(...)
All I'll say is that you lack maturity.. Grow up. You're just quoting away stuff that you don't understand.
(...)
If only the strongest survive.. I guess you should just go off yourself and save those stronger than your some trouble?
I mean, there's no need for personal insults... It only shows lack of respect.
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: p_2001 October 21, 2012, 08:14:56 PM
You, sir, are being a hypocrite. You tell others not to be judgemental, yet you're judgemental of other's opinions:
I mean, there's no need for personal insults... It only shows lack of respect.

no, usually I am not a hypocrite. This topic, well i got emotional. That's all I can say.

  As for kulvers.. Well.. I was already miffed.. He called Indians,"sand Niggers".. Although, it all resolved after we talked on irc.

Apart from that, all I have put are my opinions. And suggested that others do the same. We should opine, but not judge. That's all I am saying.

Putting an an opinion is different and calling her selfish is different.

That girl made her choice, selfish or not is not for us to decide.
What if the net was her only outlet? If her real life was much more shitty?
She wanted an out and she got it.
Maybe she is happier now?
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: Snayler October 21, 2012, 08:53:32 PM

Maybe she is happier now?
Well, christianity says those who off themselves go to hell... Not sure what is said about it on other religions, though.
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: lucid October 21, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Well, christianity says those who off themselves go to hell... Not sure what is said about it on other religions, though.
Technically that is only true for Catholicism.
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: silenthunder October 22, 2012, 12:16:39 AM
Well, christianity says those who off themselves go to hell... Not sure what is said about it on other religions, though.

I've talked to a large number of Christian religious leaders from all branches of Christianity about this. Just because you kill yourself, you're not automatically going to hell. Committing suicide is a sin, yes, but it's not unforgivable. In the Bible there is only ONE unforgivable sin (speaking out against God). However, the issue arises that because of the nature of your sin, you are dead, and therefore you can't repent, as the ability to repent is reserved to the living.
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: iTpHo3NiX October 22, 2012, 02:40:21 AM
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: F1.z3ro October 22, 2012, 02:50:47 AM
[size=78%]Rather than posting judgments here, you should see that you are not the only one with an opinion. No one wants to die for fun, if someone contemplates it than it isn't for fun.[/size]


I didn't post a judgement.   I simply said suicide is always a selfish move.  I didn't slam anyone for stating an opinion - every fucking post in this thread is an opinion.


Talk about the fuckiing pot calling the kettel black.  Check your shit at the door.  You know as much about her particular perspective as anyone else here does - which is jack shit.
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: Z3R0 October 22, 2012, 05:51:50 AM
Come on now ya'll. No need to be talking so angrily with each other. We're all like-minded adults here. She killed herself because she couldn't handle the criticism of her peers, and her family/teachers failed to get her the help she needed. There's nothing any of us could have done to stop her, or her peers, or the faggot that caused all of the problems for her.

How often do people come here with their problems, and ask us for help? example: "Someone is doing something bad to me over Facebook, can you guys hack them for me?" How often do we further harass people like that when they do come here? Almost always. I know it's not our place to be someone's personal army, but maybe we can at least consider that some people have similar problems such as this girl did.

Then again, this is evilzone, and let's face it...we've all got a dark-side deep down inside of us. :)
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: theellimist October 23, 2012, 12:02:30 AM
Personally I think people who kill themselves are pussies. Your life is in your hands, you have to make the effort to reach out for help. People are not going to read your fucking mind and know that you need help or whatever. If you really can't handle some internet bullies teasing you, how are you ever going to handle real people that hate you?