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Community => General discussion => : pllaybuoy November 03, 2012, 08:46:26 PM

: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: pllaybuoy November 03, 2012, 08:46:26 PM
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 Cyber experts warned yesterday that hackers could send the world back to the 1960s by hijacking satellites dotted around space, creating havoc below.
 Our overwhelming reliance on space technology makes us acutely vulnerable were it to ever break down or be deliberately sabotaged. For those gathered at the conference on national security and space at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) yesterday it was an issue they felt needed to be confronted more openly.
 "It is a real issue and a real vulnerability," explained Mark Roberts, a former space and cyber expert at the Ministry of Defence who has recently moved to the private sector. "What we are doing is making ourselves more vulnerable to attack than we had been formerly. My personal view is that a day without space is not going – as some people say – to send us back to the dark ages. It's more likely to put us back into the 1960s."
 Every day, miles above the Earth's atmosphere, an army of satellites provides us with a vital stream of information. From our mobile phones to satnavs, from shipping channels to television broadcasts, from the monitoring of our melting polar ice caps to the running of vital defence systems – our world would struggle to function without the satellites above us.
 Cyber experts from across Britain gathered in London yesterday to ponder what would happen if we were forced to deal with a "day without space". The threats against our satellites are as varied as they are numerous.
 From solar storms that temporarily knock out communication, to mid-stratosphere crashes and deliberate attack, satellites are frighteningly vulnerable. One of the issues causing the most concerns – that has somewhat belatedly sparked attempts to initiate a clean-up – is the sheer amount of litter surrounding Earth. Nasa estimates that there are as many as 16,000 pieces of debris larger than 10cm orbiting within 2,000km of earth – the region where most of the world's satellites are positioned. Each piece can travel at tens of thousands of kilometres an hour, and could easily destroy any satellite it meets.
 It's also getting crowded up there. Since the space race began in the late 1950s, more than 6,500 satellites have been sent up, of which only 994 are still operational. As Professor Richard Crowther, from the UK Space Agency put it: "Space is infinite, but the space around the earth is finite."
 Three years ago the world was given a frightening glimpse into what will happen unless we reduce the number of redundant satellites in space when a working telecommunications satellite built by the US firm Iridium smashed into a defunct Russian Kosmos satellite. The computer models predicted the satellites would pass with half a kilometre of each other. Instead the collision, which took place at 26,000 miles per hour, created more 1,000 extra pieces of debris larger than 10cm – which are still causing problems to this day.
 Given the carnage that can be unleashed by a collision, the array of redundant satellites provides an opportunity for malignant hackers looking to cause mayhem for strategic or anarchic reasons.
 Mark Roberts, who pioneered the introduction of cyber elements into the war games that the MoD runs, hypothesised a scenario in which hackers take control of one or multiple redundant satellites and use them to crash into more vital ones.
 "There are lots of satellites in orbit at the moment that have been taken off line," he explained. "They still have propulsion, they have the ability to be restarted. Somebody particularly nasty could hack one of these things and then start to manoeuvre it."
 One Nasa scientist – Donald Kessler – even predicted a single large collisions could produce enough debris to create a cascading effect where future collisions increase exponentially – making space travel and satellites impossible for a generation.
 While the military has long prepared for the possibility of operating without GPS, emergency services are now beginning to consider having to do their jobs in such circumstances. Chief Superintendent Jim Hammond, from the Association of Chief Police Officers, warned that a 24-hour stoppage in GPS data within London would quickly have knock-on effects on transport, City trading as well as the emergency services' ability to communicate with or locate tagged criminals.
 "The art of looking at a map is being forgotten," he said. "The rush hour might go from one to three hours."
 Probably best not to throw away your A to Z maps just yet.

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 Junking up the skies   6,500 The number of satellites that have been sent up since Sputnik.
 400,000 The number of pieces of debris smaller than 10cm in orbit.
 994 The number of operational satellites orbiting Earth.
 3,000 The total number of satellites orbiting Earth (including those that are now defunct).
 16,000 The number of pieces of debris larger than 10cm orbiting Earth in the area where most satellites are based.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Zesh November 03, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
I think China using a death ray to knock out a satellite is more probable than a satellite getting hacked, unless you have someone like the villian from Skyfall.
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: Axon November 03, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Dude please edit your post and change the coloring :(
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Kulverstukas November 04, 2012, 03:14:50 AM
Lol, I honestly have no idea how can a broken satellite bring us into stone age. Someone explain?
Tho I'm with Zesh on this one. It seems more likely for people to knock that sat with a death-ray than to hack into somewhere and operate the big-ass dish from middle of no where. But I'm not a leet haxor and a bit drunk, so I don't know...
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: p_2001 November 04, 2012, 04:13:23 AM
Lol, I honestly have no idea how can a broken satellite bring us into stone age. Someone explain?
Tho I'm with Zesh on this one. It seems more likely for people to knock that sat with a death-ray than to hack into somewhere and operate the big-ass dish from middle of no where. But I'm not a leet haxor and a bit drunk, so I don't know...

Satellite acts as a repeater to broadcast signals. Imagine, suddenly, no tv.. No stock broking, no telecom. no benefits from IT.
Loads of mismanagement.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Zesh November 04, 2012, 04:28:09 AM
Satellite acts as a repeater to broadcast signals. Imagine, suddenly, no tv.. No stock broking, no telecom. no benefits from IT.
Loads of mismanagement.

Even the broken ones that Kulverstukas was asking about? I don't see how a satellite that is "offline" can cause harm. I mean for someone to hack a satellite, they must be pretty good.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: p_2001 November 04, 2012, 05:02:48 AM
Even the broken ones that Kulverstukas was asking about? I don't see how a satellite that is "offline" can cause harm. I mean for someone to hack a satellite, they must be pretty good.
Lol.. You misinterpret..
Broken meant a hijacked one. Not offline.
Besides. How do you hijack a broken one? The sat must work to be connected to the network.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Zesh November 04, 2012, 06:06:40 AM
Lol.. You misinterpret..
Broken meant a hijacked one. Not offline.
Besides. How do you hijack a broken one? The sat must work to be connected to the network.

There is a reason I put offline in speech marks. What I meant by offline was more like the satellite is old and not being used so I didn't see those "offline" satellites causing any real harm.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: p_2001 November 04, 2012, 06:30:38 AM
There is a reason I put offline in speech marks. What I meant by offline was more like the satellite is old and not being used so I didn't see those "offline" satellites causing any real harm.

Yes, i got what you said. But kulver meant that if a working satellite goes into a hackers hand. The satellite in Queston well be called broken.
You can imagine a working Sat going into wrong hands.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: pllaybuoy November 04, 2012, 08:02:48 AM
If a satellite get into a wrong persons hand then imagine what he can do with it , first of all disrupt the signals for his amusement ,from phone calls and internet to tv channels ,imagine you are seeing your fav. tv show with family and suddenly it turns into some erotic porn " oh ya baby oh ya give me more , come on them tits baby oh ya" I can only imagine on the look on grandmas face and if I were that hacker I would be really broadcasting porn all over :D besides that the hacker might change the satellites orbit and crash it into another satellite ? the pieces from the broken satellite will then keep on revolving around earth the same way satellites do and crash with other satellites , more pieces and more crashes and so on , no TV , no INTERNET , no PHONE CALLS so thats how we go in dark age
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: p_2001 November 04, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
If a satellite get into a wrong persons hand then imagine what he can do with it , first of all disrupt the signals for his amusement ,from phone calls and internet to tv channels ,imagine you are seeing your fav. tv show with family and suddenly it turns into some erotic porn " oh ya baby oh ya give me more , come on them tits baby oh ya" I can only imagine on the look on grandmas face and if I were that hacker I would be really broadcasting porn all over :D besides that the hacker might change the satellites orbit and crash it into another satellite ? the pieces from the broken satellite will then keep on revolving around earth the same way satellites do and crash with other satellites , more pieces and more crashes and so on , no TV , no INTERNET , no PHONE CALLS so thats how we go in dark age

Yes, add obmbarding random signals at all frequencies..
capturing images of confidential places..
The list is huge.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: gh0st November 04, 2012, 09:10:53 AM
lol this is post is fun but what is true is that the hacker who entered into the NASA system looking for new tech said that already hackers across the world entered and its defend systems are weak so if they could do that why not hack a sateltel
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: lucid November 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
Seriously, stop using BBcode coloring, because you don't know how to use it responsibly.. On topic though I am sure that this is possible. While being highly unlikely.

Off topic again: It is funny to me that you are drunk Kulver
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Kulverstukas November 05, 2012, 12:00:19 PM
Seriously, stop using BBcode coloring, because you don't know how to use it responsibly.. On topic though I am sure that this is possible. While being highly unlikely.

Off topic again: It is funny to me that you are drunk Kulver

There's no rest for us. Someone's gotta moderate the boards :D
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: lucid November 05, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
I am also guilty of drunk moderating quite often.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Inf3kti0n February 06, 2013, 07:04:48 AM
Imagine the positive possibilities of this though... If you believe in the goal of ultimately stopping the NWO from happening, or truly being free...this is how to do that. If we had our own satellites, screw using them to send civilization back to the 1960's, we could forever remain undetected. No worry of military drones with our name on the hit list (If you've been watching CNN lately about that). Anons, could remain anonymous. We could still use all of the technologies like cellular phones and this new Google Glass coming out without submitting our freedom of privacy, without having to worry about being constantly watched and monitored. We could actually change the tides of these corrupt policies and such, turning their own technology against them. We could save our people from the tyranny of these corrupt politicians...We could be unstoppable.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: pllaybuoy February 06, 2013, 07:09:36 AM
How we'll be in stoneage again .If one satellites hit another on just the correct time then this will happen .
It might break down in large pieces which will hit and destroy another satellite which will break the other satellite and pieces from that will break the other and so on .You can see there are possible chances of a chain reaction.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: rasenove February 06, 2013, 07:54:35 AM
This may happen in world war 3. (if it ever starts that is)
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: kenjoe41 February 06, 2013, 12:33:33 PM
now he must really be evil to hack it and just crash it into another except if its too broken that propulsion is the only service left working.
if any other services are working then there are many cool ideas even me that i can think of other than crashing it into another. that not even selfish cos in the end he's gonna be affected to. duuuh.
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: lucid February 06, 2013, 06:55:12 PM
This thread: lol
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: doctorrobotnik February 06, 2013, 07:09:07 PM
Lolz. Lets launch our own anon satellite. They have been doing this for 60 years how hard could it be?
: Re: What if hackers hijacked a key satellite?
: Snayler February 06, 2013, 07:22:54 PM
This thread: lol
This.
How we'll be in stoneage again.
Hardly. Electricity was invented before satellites (obviously). We have terrestrial infrastructures for communication. Also, if somehow all satellites got destroyed, why wouldn't governments send more?
Lolz. Lets launch our own anon satellite. They have been doing this for 60 years how hard could it be?
Do you have $3 Billion? And that's only for launching the satellite...