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Hacking and Security => Mobile Hacking => Android => : Axon December 19, 2012, 01:26:29 PM

: Android rooting questions?
: Axon December 19, 2012, 01:26:29 PM
I have a couple of questions about Android rooting, first one. After rooting your device,is it possible to go back to the normal user privileges(Un-rooting your device)?. Second one, Would rooting your device decrease the value of it, just in case you want to sell it?


I know I could use Google to find the answers,but ATM I'm so fucking lazy to do that  :o
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: desudesu~ December 19, 2012, 01:59:23 PM
I have a couple of questions about Android rooting, first one. After rooting your device,is it possible to go back to the normal user privileges(Un-rooting your device)?.

Yep.

Second one, Would rooting your device decrease the value of it, just in case you want to sell it?

imo yes, however... nobody needs to know about it.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: Kulverstukas December 19, 2012, 03:20:15 PM
After rooting your device,is it possible to go back to the normal user privileges(Un-rooting your device)?.
Depends on the hack you'll use. With some you can revert and some are permanent. I cannot tell which one is permanent.

Second one, Would rooting your device decrease the value of it, just in case you want to sell it?
Depends on the buyer. If the buyer is a phone-techie, a rooted phone increases the value of it self. For a general user it doesn't matter that much, either tell him that he'll have more privileges than a normal phone, or don't tell him anything.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 20, 2012, 12:59:55 AM
1). Rooting consists of putting the super user binary so with a software you can monitor which app gets su...
As for UNROOT.. you make a backup of your rom before doing any changes. To unroot just flash it. both the rom and bootloader.
Or if you don't have one, just download it online and flash it.. unrooted now..

htc phones may show "relocked" in bootloader and a smart guy would know.


2) rooting voids warranty, htc phones will get warranty voided.. For each phone check whether the rooting is completely reversible or not. Htc ones have locked boot loaders with water marks. So....
Although after warranty period it doesn't matter. Someone who doesn't know root will not understand.. And someone who does would just flash stock to avoid any chance of you selling infected phone..
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: iTpHo3NiX December 20, 2012, 09:55:29 AM
1. Depending on the phone and root method will determine if you can unroot and restore to factory defaults. In 90% of the cases you can, although before you start flashing make backups and be sure to do research on rooting, as well as unrooting and be sure to grab any unrooting files just in case the links go down (had this happen on my Droid X) Newer phones come with an unlockable/lockable bootload which will play a part as well (unlock bootloader, root phone, unroot phone, lock bootloader)

2. The value wont decrease, only your warrenty will go away. If you're selling the phone rooted, to certain crowds this will increase the value, to other crowds it wont change the value because they don't know what it is. But in any case, doesn't hurt to unroot and then sell as well.

What kind of Android do you have? I can link you to a reputable site to get the files you need for root/unroot if it can.

<3
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: s3my0n December 20, 2012, 02:56:10 PM
Rooting an android is easy. And reverting it back to its previous state is also easy. All you do is get the appropriate binaries, boot your Linux PC, connect your android device to the PC in factory mode, copy over the binaries, chmod them so they are owned as root and can be run by normal users and that's it, you got root when you execute the binaries on your android device. To revert it back just delete those files following the same method :P
(This works, done on my android)
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 20, 2012, 05:20:26 PM
Rooting an android is easy. And reverting it back to its previous state is also easy. All you do is get the appropriate binaries, boot your Linux PC, connect your android device to the PC in factory mode, copy over the binaries, chmod them so they are owned as root and can be run by normal users and that's it, you got root when you execute the binaries on your android device. To revert it back just delete those files following the same method :P
(This works, done on my android)

the thing is when you lock the bootloader...
Also.. There are watermarks to detect rooting..
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: Axon December 21, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
Has anyone tried this method of rooting.

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/how-to-root-your-samsung-galaxy-s3-50008588/

And thanks for the feedback
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: iTpHo3NiX December 21, 2012, 09:23:42 PM
I've used Odin to root my Galaxy Nexus (My girl has an S3 and she doesn't want me to root it :( )

I would use this method as it's a reputable site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439

More rooting information on the S3. Which carrier are you using so I know whether its GSM or CDMA so I can make sure to give you links to the best method for your specific phone.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: Stackprotector December 22, 2012, 05:09:08 PM
I rooted my s3. Other rom. works 10 times better :). There are hacks around for reverting the flash counter.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: Crouton December 31, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
I have a separate question. I just finished rooting my phone not 30 minutes ago, but now my phone wants me to update, I guess my question is should I allow the update? this is my first root ever and I'm not really sure what to do here.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 31, 2012, 04:32:17 PM
I have a separate question. I just finished rooting my phone not 30 minutes ago, but now my phone wants me to update, I guess my question is should I allow the update? this is my first root ever and I'm not really sure what to do here.

which phone?.. It'd be better if you tell that.
Btw my htc evo 3d did not update after root. Had to lock the boot loader and flash stock.
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: fluxdaemon December 31, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
I have a separate question. I just finished rooting my phone not 30 minutes ago, but now my phone wants me to update, I guess my question is should I allow the update? this is my first root ever and I'm not really sure what to do here.


The best thing to do would be to install a custom ROM. You wont have to worry about updating OTA and you don't have all the bloatware


rooting voids warranty, htc phones will get warranty voided.. For each phone check whether the rooting is completely reversible or not. Htc ones have locked boot loaders with water marks. So....
Although after warranty period it doesn't matter. Someone who doesn't know root will not understand.. And someone who does would just flash stock to avoid any chance of you selling infected phone..


Actually rooting does not void the warranty
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 31, 2012, 04:58:37 PM

The best thing to do would be to install a custom ROM. You wont have to worry about updating OTA and you don't have all the bloatware



Actually rooting does not void the warranty
it does

. Rooting does void warranty in the sense that if you take rooted phone without unrooting it...

and... Suppose your display stops working... Good luck unrooting it... :)
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: fluxdaemon December 31, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
it does

. Rooting does void warranty in the sense that if you take rooted phone without unrooting it...

and... Suppose your display stops working... Good luck unrooting it... :)


Nope, it doesn't. And if your screen stops working how would anybody know it's rooted anyways?
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 31, 2012, 06:29:55 PM

Nope, it doesn't. And if your screen stops working how would anybody know it's rooted anyways?

www.htcdev.com/bootloader
:).. why not read it yourself?


besides this, when the phone is taken to service centre, they check for root.

also, if display is not working they will repair the phone and then check it. they'll then call you and tell you that you have "illegal" software on phone that void warranty.
Then they give you the option... Either pay or they return it as it was sent...


: Re: Android rooting questions?
: fluxdaemon December 31, 2012, 06:37:05 PM
The only thing it says about it voiding your warranty is it "may" void it, not that that it does. And your warranty is covered by your provider, not the manufacturer. Legally, rooting your phone does not void it


EDIT: I guess I should add that I'm only talking about the United States. I don't know about other countries
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: p_2001 December 31, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
The only thing it says about it voiding your warranty is it "may" void it, not that that it does. And your warranty is covered by your provider, not the manufacturer. Legally, rooting your phone does not void it


EDIT: I guess I should add that I'm only talking about the United States. I don't know about other countries

ah yes... The may part :)..
The moment you log in and register it shows you the "agreement"... "by clicking.... Blah blah.... Void warranty.... blah..."..

to unlock the bl you need to give your imei.. And it is registered as voided.. Now the service centre just needs to ... Well you know..


anyhow... Well.. I rest my case..
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: fluxdaemon December 31, 2012, 07:24:29 PM
I stand by what I said
: Re: Android rooting questions?
: Crouton December 31, 2012, 09:11:03 PM
I've got an original EVO 4G. I didn't brick it which is real nice, but somehow I've lost most of the work I did to it last night. After I achieve root again, I'll flash a new ROM and let everyone know how that goes. Thanks guys