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i really don't know what you call it a obvious fallacy here, but you just don't name something that doesn't exist.

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This Example i heard before from Al_Shaarawy's.

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The "TV" Before it was Invented, was there any thing called a "TV" ? No.

But After it was Invented it was Given the name and every one now knows the word "TV" and what it means.

So The Meaning Exist first then a word comes describing it after.

And The Fact that the word "Allah" already exist in your language and mine and in every other language. that mean the meaning (The creator of This world) already Exist and the word came after to describe it.

I hope that is close enough.



But After all
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"Belief" : an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

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Then at least we agreed to disagree

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For an answer on :

First Quote:
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24:2 Strike the adulteress and the adulterer one hundred times. Do not let compassion for them keep you from carrying out God’s law—if you believe in God and the Last Day—and ensure that a group of believers witnesses the punishment. (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Quran, New York: Oxford UP, 2004)
try checking for the conditions required to run this punishments

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5:38 Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise. 39 But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)
Prophet Mohamed said
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Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allaah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allaah, if Faatimah Bint (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand."
for full explanation : http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/articles/136791/the-ruling-of-theft-in-islam

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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).
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The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). 
They was forced to relocate from mecca and when they was able to go back they fought with them and when the won and entered the city and all the Meccans who fought with them was taken hostages prophet mohamed set them free.

And finally ,PsychoRebellious what really cought my eye of your nonsense
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Do you know about the arrogance and ignorance of Mohammad's companion omer who went to library Alexandria on Rome ivasion and torched it down because Quran wasn't there.
because if you make a simple google search you would have find who really burned the library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Destruction

lease stop your lies or at least check them first cause honestly i can't keep up ...

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Do you really think that people were living in peace before Islam And then Islam comes and makes people kill each other?
Do you really think that any religion call for such violence, Terrorism and intolerance will have all this follower around the world and getting more every day?
a Muslim in Islam is The person who doesn't  hurt other people either with his tongue like in  “Insulting and cursing “ or with his hand like in “any kind of physical abuse”.
And you come and call these Ruthless who kills People like that  a Muslims ?I don't think so
The Muslims in the world is the most one who suffer from there Cruelty every day, look how many of them die every day in Iraq in suicide bomb or on a raids of ISIS , and have a look at what is happening in Libya or Yemen and at the end the rest get palmed for what they do.
And you call the man who used to order his army before any war they had to fight "don't kill a child or a woman or an old man or a sick , don't cut down a tree or demolish a hermitage or a building"
you call him a killer or worse, read about his biography and then judge him.

I understand your anger and
sympathize with you but please don't let your anger blind you and make you judge islam or more than a billion Muslim around the world like that.

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To OP, it's just 6 person of millions I hope you just don't judge on someone or something based an act of such a few.
The problem here as always in the understanding of the wrong people, intolerance and resorting to violence and justify it with religion to escape from the consequences of their actions

Do they know that mohammad forcefully married a woman(Safiya) after killing her husband,  brother, and father the same evening
really ?? what are you smoking?

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General discussion / Re: i lol'd
« on: December 12, 2014, 12:58:02 am »
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For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for
the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was
peace.
it's all very interesting but i can't find  that in quran

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