NSA surveillance

[Mordred]

You know what pisses me off?

The fact that people are actually surprised by this.

For fuck's sake: ECHELON, DCSNet, Carnivore, CALEA, FISA, etc. All of that shit has been public knowledge for a long time. The NSA surveys you and intercepts all of your communications, the evidence was rampant and in plain view, but the majority were sheep or denialists.

Then along comes Snowden who reveals the latest in the likely dozens of NSA projects, and suddenly everyone goes: "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA HOW COULD YOU?!"

Fucking please. Of course people have to wake up at some point, but to see people genuinely expressing shock and surprise by this in our information age is simply disgusting to me. Not like they can do anything about it.

[offtopic]Your way of thinking makes me wonder if we don't originate from the same country. Or close at least  [/offtopic]

People don't give a shit man. I've asked random people I know and some responded with: "so what if they see what I do? I don't do anything illegal on the Internet"... And I just feel like fucking punching them in the face. What stops me though, and what makes me not feel upset when I see these kind of news, is this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8rh6qqsmxNs

Perfect explanation for both why we live like this, but also why people are the way they are.

[proxx]

[offtopic]Your way of thinking makes me wonder if we don't originate from the same country. Or close at least  [/offtopic]

People don't give a shit man. I've asked random people I know and some responded with: "so what if they see what I do? I don't do anything illegal on the Internet"... And I just feel like fucking punching them in the face. What stops me though, and what makes me not feel upset when I see these kind of news, is this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8rh6qqsmxNs

Perfect explanation for both why we live like this, but also why people are the way they are.

I fucking hate the "I dont have anything to hide" argument.
In that case you wouldnt mind me hanging a camera in your shower either.
(I hope its a women )

[Chef]

The truth is guys, the bad thing in the world is the US Government. Countries just don't have the balls to speak up against it. Now that Obama has realized how the peoples thoughts are changing, he fears a revolution. So he is surveying all of his citizens because he fears them. All tyrants go through a stage like this in their rule. It's just Roman history repeating itself. No matter how much you raise your voices, nothing will happen.

You are 100% correct man. It is so sad that the country/world has become this way but i guess it's just part of life/past history.

[lucid]

but i guess it's just part of life

And that's exactly why they get away with it..

[Chef]

And that's exactly why they get away with it..

True. We could always revolt against the government and be labeled terrorists and rebels for defending the constitution they are slowly but surely rewriting.