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Burning question?
« on: August 02, 2013, 08:26:12 pm »
Technical help, IF you had in your possession usernames and passwords for 4 individual online bank accounts valued at $60,000, with email ,Facebook, PayPal accounts, what could you do?
Is it all trial an error?  Or too much of a tough problem to solve, pre paid debt cards, ask for to much info, ridiculous transaction limits, try and open a bank account, banks now utilize third party services, to find out if you really live at that address, before they even send you the card…are there any real options left? Any ideas would be great cheers.

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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 09:12:19 pm »
If that's the case it's just a matter of time before your fucked.
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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 10:22:48 pm »
It's too risky to hack bank accounts, most of the hacks done on bank accounts and credit cards are done by organizations. And eventually they get fucked up in the ass by the LAE's, not to mention you being an individual? I think you got the idea now.

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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2013, 12:45:48 am »
Technical help, IF you had in your possession usernames and passwords for 4 individual online bank accounts valued at $60,000, with email ,Facebook, PayPal accounts, what could you do?
Is it all trial an error?  Or too much of a tough problem to solve, pre paid debt cards, ask for to much info, ridiculous transaction limits, try and open a bank account, banks now utilize third party services, to find out if you really live at that address, before they even send you the card…are there any real options left? Any ideas would be great cheers.

The fact that you ask it here and you need to ask at all, dont even think about it.
Not to be an asshole but to protect yours.
(I like my own sentense)

Apart from that I def. dont want to sound small minded, its been pulled off.
And the fact that we hear a lot about the ones arrested , how about those who didnt...
Its an easy mistake to assume that all of them get caught.
If I was a major bank corp I would for Sure not tell anyone anything if I knew someone stole something and we failed to protect it.
Especially if we had no clue as  who is to blaim.
It would floor all trust from partners/customers and govs.

You think keeping your mouth shut and consider the couple million lost vs blowing up your ass is a hard choice?
Obviously not.


Something else that has always drawn my attention and arrested my interest is how do they do it.
How do you wire money and not point it towards yourself.
Either Im too stupid to have a clue or those methods are so well designed and deeply underground that we never hear of it.
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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2013, 05:49:10 am »
How do you wire money and not point it towards yourself.
Either Im too stupid to have a clue or those methods are so well designed and deeply underground that we never hear of it.

I've often wondered that myself. Perhaps it has something to do with transferring the money to a place outside of the feds jurisdiction. Or maybe you have to spread out the money really thin and send it to many many different places that way it's too hard to track.

Idk, I'm sure a team of people is required for this. Maybe not though..
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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2013, 06:54:12 am »
What couldn't you do is the question? I guess it all comes down to morals.

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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2013, 12:59:22 pm »
Have a look at the Stealing the Network series and Kingpin.
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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 08:32:35 pm »
I've often wondered that myself. Perhaps it has something to do with transferring the money to a place outside of the feds jurisdiction. Or maybe you have to spread out the money really thin and send it to many many different places that way it's too hard to track.

Idk, I'm sure a team of people is required for this. Maybe not though..

There are lots of ways they can keep the money, and you're right, they do usually work in teams.

They can send the money to another hacked bank account which they have full control over, from there they can distribute it around the team, it can be withdrawn from atms or they can use exchange services to trade the money in for  bitcoins or webmoney. If they use an exchange service it's then easy to send the money wherever they want.

They can also make large purchases online and have the items sent to drop houses to be collected by other members of the team, these items can then be sold online.
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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 06:49:46 am »
If you really have no morals, max out the accounts on Warcraft gold or other popular games and then resell. It's illegitimate and they use drop accounts to transfer the cash. Sell it for a few dollars cheaper and you're in bank. What does it hurt losing a few bucks when it's not your money?

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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 02:14:45 pm »
Perhaps buying out bitcoins from certain vendors that don't track or keep your track at all, so for example those vendors who supply bitcoins for darknet? I've heard some of them are anonymous.

Then resell bitcoins for real money or, keep some for Possible currency boom?
That way you could make a lot of money if it ever goes up by much, or it can be the other way round- you can loose a lot.

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Re: Burning question?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2013, 10:07:06 pm »
Risky shit.
That's why I prefer to just go to work and make money the slow way.

So far no problems.

Stealing people's money is nasty in any case.
It doesn't feel good to lose money that you have to use to pay your bills.
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