How many of you use backtrack 5 and why or if you don't why not ?

[Hound]

Hey i was just wondering why you guys choose to or choose not to use backtrack 5??

Please be as specific as possible.

I'm using ubuntu at the moment but I would like to duel boot with backtrack 5.

I'm using ubuntu as my main os right now but I want to keep my main os out of all my hacking stuff and I know that backtrack 5 comes with allot of good programs.

[WirelessDesert]

I use it only on a VM on my linux distro, there is no reason to use it instead of another distro for dualboot(except some driver issues). However, I don't even use backtrack anymore.
There is a new distro "Kali", that is the successor of Backtrack.

[Thor]

Dual-booting BackTrack is unnecessary. I'd recommend just running it in a virtual machine. It's simpler and safer (any damage done by running as root can easily be reversed). It's also more flexible for setting up networks to test.

BackTrack is good for bug research and penetration testing. It comes pre-installed with lots of useful tools which could take a long time to install and configure manually on a normal Linux distro.

As mentioned by WirelessDesert, Kali Linux is the successor to BackTrack. One of the noticeable differences is that all the pre-installed programs are either located or linked in /etc/bin meaning that you can run them directly from the terminal window without having to cd down the /pentest directory which you would have to do in BackTrack. Not a major improvement, but it does save a bit of time.

[proxx]

Lets just throw in my 2 cents than.
Backtrack or Kali for me has one purpose, which is scrolling a bunch of prebuilt tools.
Having a look every now and than to see what is on the market is uselfull because its hard to keep track otherwise.
Other than that I dont like debian and family, that just a matter of taste.
I just have the tools installed on my current setup.
Dont see much reason to install it, building your own toolkit can a great/terrible experience but you have learnt something at the end of the day.

[s1l3nc3]

bro i dont know like how goo dyou are at hacking ect but if your new then i would reconmend you install Virtual box on your main OS and then do your hacking stuff from there, like if you havent started hacking into web servers and stuff and still on your learning stage you should deffo just do a virtual machines to start learning i would reconmend you fuck backtrack for a while i think its over rated to be honest with you

like if your learning your going to using tuts right and reading books in these things they will tell you what tools you need, you can just get the tools as you go and then yu will end with a good tool set that works for you...

im still on a learning stage and no where near pro yet, i use to use back track and stuff but as i become more awae of how things work ect i stoped using back track as much and trying to learn the linux OS by trying to install stuff even though it can make you wanna fly kick your computer at time lol

[lucid]

bro i dont know like how goo dyou are at hacking ect but if your new then i would reconmend you install Virtual box on your main OS and then do your hacking stuff from there, like if you havent started hacking into web servers and stuff and still on your learning stage you should deffo just do a virtual machines to start learning i would reconmend you fuck backtrack for a while i think its over rated to be honest with you

like if your learning your going to using tuts right and reading books in these things they will tell you what tools you need, you can just get the tools as you go and then yu will end with a good tool set that works for you...

im still on a learning stage and no where near pro yet, i use to use back track and stuff but as i become more awae of how things work ect i stoped using back track as much and trying to learn the linux OS by trying to install stuff even though it can make you wanna fly kick your computer at time lol

Necro

[s1l3nc3]

Necro

i dont get it ?

[lucid]

Check the date on the last post before you posted.

EDIT: Hmm, nevermind. I coulda sworn that date was longer ago the last time I checked. Carry on.

[Resistor]

bro i dont know like how goo dyou are at hacking ect but if your new then i would reconmend you install Virtual box on your main OS and then do your hacking stuff from there, like if you havent started hacking into web servers and stuff and still on your learning stage you should deffo just do a virtual machines to start learning i would reconmend you fuck backtrack for a while i think its over rated to be honest with you

like if your learning your going to using tuts right and reading books in these things they will tell you what tools you need, you can just get the tools as you go and then yu will end with a good tool set that works for you...

im still on a learning stage and no where near pro yet, i use to use back track and stuff but as i become more awae of how things work ect i stoped using back track as much and trying to learn the linux OS by trying to install stuff even though it can make you wanna fly kick your computer at time lol

I think you should learn English before hacking.

I dual boot with Mint and Kali. I'm just starting out in the pentesting world, and I use Kali because I saw some tutorials with it, and I think it makes learning pretty easy because so many tools are right there at the ready. It's a hacking OS for fuck's sake, what's not to like? I think the fact that the metasploit guys are involved in it should speak for itself as to if people should use it or not.



Resistor note: I'm an Anarchist, not a bitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoWEESRrNK8

[Sparky712]

english before that, definitely. That way, it'd be easier for you to ask good questions, and get good answers from the community.

However, if someone is new then I would definitely recommend that they NOT use kali or backtrack. Personally, I think the best idea is to learn some programming beforehand, and build your own tools, just to gain an understanding of how they work on the code level, then maybe start trying out the tools with the distro of your choice.

[Resistor]

That would be a theoretical approach. I think both theoretical, and practical approaches should be taken.

I'm currently working on learning all the ins and outs of WLAN pentesting and I'm actively testing my home network with Kali, and studying at the same time. I'm learning very efficiently, and am having no problems retaining knowledge. I know a lot more now than I would if I would have spent the time to learn to code, code my own aircrack suite, and test with my own tools. By using already compiled tools, it lets users focus on learning theory, and application of theory altogether, rather than focusing solely on theory for a long time, then move on to practical applications.

[Snayler]

I'm currently working on learning all the ins and outs of WLAN pentesting and I'm actively testing my home network with Kali, and studying at the same time. I'm learning very efficiently, and am having no problems retaining knowledge. I know a lot more now than I would if I would have spent the time to learn to code, code my own aircrack suite, and test with my own tools. By using already compiled tools, it lets users focus on learning theory, and application of theory altogether, rather than focusing solely on theory for a long time, then move on to practical applications.

It depends. Yes, it is true that a distro with lots of compiled tools may be of some help for a newbie on his learning time. But I also think it will only help to some extent. What happens when the tool you want is not compiled in the distro? Will you nag the devs to include it? How about when something breaks? I've heard of answers like "I'll just re-install Backtrack" which is just plain stupid and a very lazy attitude.

IMHO, going for a distro like debian/arch and compiling/installing the tools you need (instead of having the tools you need + tons of tools you never used and probably never will) is the way to go. And it will teach people how to compile from source, troubleshoot problems themselves, etc... But, if you're in a hurry, a distro like Backtrack can be a life saver, so I end my post like I started: It depends.

[Sparky712]

That would be a theoretical approach. I think both theoretical, and practical approaches should be taken.

I'm currently working on learning all the ins and outs of WLAN pentesting and I'm actively testing my home network with Kali, and studying at the same time. I'm learning very efficiently, and am having no problems retaining knowledge. I know a lot more now than I would if I would have spent the time to learn to code, code my own aircrack suite, and test with my own tools. By using already compiled tools, it lets users focus on learning theory, and application of theory altogether, rather than focusing solely on theory for a long time, then move on to practical applications.

I would have to argue that you worded part of this wrong. You don't know more than you would. You just know different parts than you would.

I will admit, your way is quicker. but hmm, no, my way was not solely theory based for a while.  it was more a focus on building a skill set which may have a more wide usage. Sure, with your way, you learn the tools much faster, and you can perform the job perfectly fine. With the way I am thinking of, it's more oriented towards a more detailed knowledge of what's actually going on under the hood, which may come in useful in unique situations, I think.

[namespace7]

It depends. Yes, it is true that a distro with lots of compiled tools may be of some help for a newbie on his learning time. But I also think it will only help to some extent. What happens when the tool you want is not compiled in the distro? Will you nag the devs to include it? How about when something breaks? I've heard of answers like "I'll just re-install Backtrack" which is just plain stupid and a very lazy attitude.

IMHO, going for a distro like debian/arch and compiling/installing the tools you need (instead of having the tools you need + tons of tools you never used and probably never will) is the way to go. And it will teach people how to compile from source, troubleshoot problems themselves, etc... But, if you're in a hurry, a distro like Backtrack can be a life saver, so I end my post like I started: It depends.

Couldn't have said it better. +1
I think BT only makes sense when you need to get your tools working very quickly in an emergency or something. Otherwise it might be better to take the hard road and learn how to configure everything yourself.

[proxx]

Couldn't have said it better. +1
I think BT only makes sense when you need to get your tools working very quickly in an emergency or something. Otherwise it might be better to take the hard road and learn how to configure everything yourself.

Indeed ^ its quite the learning experience, it can be truly the hard way, mulitple versions of ruby and 32049 gems...
That can be annoying as hell , guess thats a general learning problem.