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Ping an Xbox
« on: August 22, 2013, 10:39:06 am »
Yay another topic to add to the brand new gaming board!

Ok so, I just tried this out of curiosity and it didn't work but I'm not sure why yet. Can you ping an Xbox? I had 100% packet loss but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with me changing my IP to a static configuration or not yet.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 10:50:00 am »
I made a quick search and it appears that it's not possible to do it.

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/7/p/421311/2128769.aspx#2128769
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 11:39:29 am »
Do a tcp ping or an arpping that could give you some packets.
For arp it simply has to work.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 02:47:52 pm »
Quote from: proxx on August 22, 2013, 11:39:29 am
Do a tcp ping or an arpping that could give you some packets.
For arp it simply has to work.

Or you could measure how long it takes for TCP ACK requests to get back.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 08:38:35 pm »
Well, arping works. So as long as I know it's not an issue with my configurations then I'm good. I remember reading online and half the people said it doesn't work, and the other half of the people said that the Xbox is built with ICMP functionality. You'd think that every device that has the ability to connect to a network should have built in network troubleshooting capabilities. Like ping at the very least.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 09:25:08 pm »
Quote from: lucid on August 22, 2013, 08:38:35 pm
Well, arping works. So as long as I know it's not an issue with my configurations then I'm good. I remember reading online and half the people said it doesn't work, and the other half of the people said that the Xbox is built with ICMP functionality. You'd think that every device that has the ability to connect to a network should have built in network troubleshooting capabilities. Like ping at the very least.

Could be blocked on purpose for security reason of sorts.
ICMP plays a strong role in network traffic and will function, echos might be blocked.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 04:43:31 am »
Xbox uses Windows Media Sharing to stream audio from your computer. Maybe you could somehow do it via that way. That wouldn't be actually pinging it though and would only work on LAN.

Edit: I would look into Cain & Abel with it's ability at ARP poisoning and sniffing traffic, you might be able to find a method from how the Xbox communicates with a computer or other devices.
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 05:06:40 am »
Honestly, there's no actual reason for me to ping the xbox. I originally got interested because I ran a quick nmap scan to see everything on my network and realized there was an IP address missing. I only saw:

192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.4

That's when I tried to ping the Xbox and obviously it didn't work. For some reason I thought that it was because I had recently configured Arch with a static IP and I wasn't sure if for some reason that was affecting how I was communicating with other devices using DHCP. I actually forgot what I did that allowed nmap to see the xbox on the net, but once it showed up I tried pinging it and I got no response. Arping is the only thing that works.

Anyway, just thought it might make a nice discussion for the new gaming board.

EDIT: By the way, have you guys ever scanned an xbox for open ports with nmap? It's kind of hilarious how unsure it is. Nmap be all like:

"Um....I uh, I don't really know but, if I had to guess I would guess IIS.....or maybe NFS. Also, and this is just a guess but this OS is either IBM , linux 2.6, HP embedded, or Fujitsu Siemens ReliantUNIX"
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Re: Ping an Xbox
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2013, 01:06:48 am »
Quote from: lucid on August 23, 2013, 05:06:40 am
Honestly, there's no actual reason for me to ping the xbox. I originally got interested because I ran a quick nmap scan to see everything on my network and realized there was an IP address missing. I only saw:

192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.4

That's when I tried to ping the Xbox and obviously it didn't work. For some reason I thought that it was because I had recently configured Arch with a static IP and I wasn't sure if for some reason that was affecting how I was communicating with other devices using DHCP. I actually forgot what I did that allowed nmap to see the xbox on the net, but once it showed up I tried pinging it and I got no response. Arping is the only thing that works.

Anyway, just thought it might make a nice discussion for the new gaming board.

EDIT: By the way, have you guys ever scanned an xbox for open ports with nmap? It's kind of hilarious how unsure it is. Nmap be all like:

"Um....I uh, I don't really know but, if I had to guess I would guess IIS.....or maybe NFS. Also, and this is just a guess but this OS is either IBM , linux 2.6, HP embedded, or Fujitsu Siemens ReliantUNIX"

In that case report the scan results no the nmap website , they might improve the fingerprinting on the particular device, as you can supply them with the current running kernel etc.
Feodor'll be greatfull.
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