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NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« on: September 26, 2013, 10:04:50 am »
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/25/nsa-reform-bill-surveillance-congress
 
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It would prohibit the NSA's bulk collection phone records of Americans under section 215 of the Patriot Act, the most controversial aspect of US surveillance revealed by documents supplied by Snowden to the Guardian.

So the NSA wont "collect data" they will request it from service providers that do!
 
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 There is limited, if any, support in Congress for limiting the NSA's ability of monitor or gather evidence on foreigners.

Is this not the reason the NSA exists... as long as its for legitimate reasons.
 

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Re: NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 10:23:59 am »

Is this not the reason the NSA exists... as long as its for legitimate reasons.

Define legitimate.
Everytime any such discussion arises the problem lies in the definition or rather in the explaination of the favouring party.
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Re: NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 10:50:03 am »
Define legitimate.

Being in compliance with the law.

As i have said before, I do not agree with collection for collection sake.. i.e. ALL DATA being collected about everybody at all time..


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Re: NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 12:28:04 am »
Being in compliance with the law.

As i have said before, I do not agree with collection for collection sake.. i.e. ALL DATA being collected about everybody at all time..


Yeah, I would say that this is the major point that needs to be pressed.
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Re: NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 06:28:49 am »
That was my fucking point, the law applies only to those that dont have money.
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Re: NSA reform bill to trim back US surveillance unveiled in Congress
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 06:49:13 am »
the law applies only to those that dont have money.

I should have started counting from the first time you said something that seems to have come straight from my own head..

It would be a high number at this point.
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