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Do you think the Internet could become sentient?

Yes
3 (21.4%)
No
7 (50%)
Maybe
3 (21.4%)
Other (Feel free to explain in the comments)
1 (7.1%)

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Author Topic: Consciousness arising on the Internet  (Read 1742 times)

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Offline Syntax990

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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2015, 12:19:56 am »
Sentient consciousness does not technically exist, it's an illusion due to the amount of information we use in our neural network. The internet is cleverly comprised together forming the bases of intelligent networks. Not just the basics of ISP topologies but also VPN and other TOR-like overlay networks.

These 'overlay networks' are nothing more than random formulae that can be infinity generated on a node-like structured network. When so many network protocols and overlay topologies are implemented in the Internet, it will definitely gain intelligence and efficiency, but will not gain sentient consciousness.

Technically we do not hold sentient consciousness as explained earlier; it's just an illusion. If we hold an entropy to where a network is too simple to be sentient then we can actually define what a sentient network is. If an internetwork gains the level of intelligence that exceeds the original entropy of simple networks, then we can class it as sentient by illusion.

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I voted other, since sentient life can be argued to exist.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 12:24:06 am by syntax990 »

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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2015, 01:27:20 am »
Sorry if it seemed like I was being condescending. I just wasn't sure if I was speaking simply enough for you to understand. And those things might not be obvious to you, because if they were, then reaching my conclusion shouldn't have been that difficult/silly for you.
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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2015, 01:35:56 am »
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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2015, 04:23:05 pm »
@syntax990 Are you talking about Shannon entropy? Thanks for explaining why you voted other, I was wondering who did that

@cyberdrifter and Architect, agree to disagree boys, you both make good points

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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2015, 09:20:34 pm »
@syntax990 Are you talking about Shannon entropy? Thanks for explaining why you voted other, I was wondering who did that

I'm not to sure on Shannon entropy, haven't heard of it.

The entropy I was referring to was the percentage of A.I it takes so an internetwork is classed  sentient. If this is the case then the fact of our egocentric predicament of the universe prevents us from realizing our consciousness only an illusion of the advanced networking in our cognitive existence.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 12:54:20 am by syntax990 »

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Re: Consciousness arising on the Internet
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2015, 10:38:27 am »
Sorry if it seemed like I was being condescending. I just wasn't sure if I was speaking simply enough for you to understand. And those things might not be obvious to you, because if they were, then reaching my conclusion shouldn't have been that difficult/silly for you.


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Now I'm not saying the theory isn't correct or 'good' but, you have to see that it is still just a theory. Just like almost everything in Science, take it from me (Masters studying theoretical evolutionary genomics, split with mathematics) theories are backed with evidence that supports them, doesn't make them fact. Just because you argue something doesn't mean it is true...
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