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Kendo techniques
« on: August 10, 2015, 05:06:27 pm »
Does anyone know where can I find some kendo techniques to study and learn? Or to suggest me name of some book , website.
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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 06:11:57 pm »
I would start here:

Kendo Teaching Guidelines (Kendo Shido Yoryo)
http://zenkenren-shop.com/en/eigo/index.html#050109

Ill see what I can find online.

Would be cool if EZ had a MA section. There are alot of good ninjitsu and dim mak  books out there too.
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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 06:18:10 pm »
In my opinion, Martial Arts in general is almost necessary training in a gym, dojo, or similar place. Some things you can't learn by yourself or learn wrong, causing harm to you and others.

I'm black belt in Hapkido and Kickboxing/Muay Thai and didn't find useful training alone, maybe if you already know the moves and have some experience. :)

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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 11:39:09 pm »
Thanks for sharing 0E. What comes in my mind , Blackoutt, is that some sword fighters , such as miyamoto musashi, learned on their own, and they did it by thinking what is good, testing as well, how to make a grip, how to move, how to strike, how to parry, when to move in, when to retreat. All those things can be learned only if you think deeply of them. And of course, by testing it out. Every martial art that is here now is once created by some man who knew nothing at all. Sooo, in that same way, one can learn alone. But it is important to truly understand and test what he learns, rather than accepting it blindly , and doing wrong thing forever.
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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 05:04:57 pm »
Thanks for sharing 0E. What comes in my mind , Blackoutt, is that some sword fighters , such as miyamoto musashi, learned on their own, and they did it by thinking what is good, testing as well, how to make a grip, how to move, how to strike, how to parry, when to move in, when to retreat. All those things can be learned only if you think deeply of them. And of course, by testing it out. Every martial art that is here now is once created by some man who knew nothing at all. Sooo, in that same way, one can learn alone. But it is important to truly understand and test what he learns, rather than accepting it blindly , and doing wrong thing forever.



Right! But you need to learn the basics with someone. Musashi and others are old stories, maybe all real maybe some parts myth. Don't know a lot of swords and swordsmen, my thing is archery, but you can't rely 100% in history. Looking to archery legends it's very similar, I have a basic knowledge and training in traditional archery.


I practiced for more than a year alone, doing what I thought was right. In fact I did evolve and improve my skills, but when I went learn with a very graduated coach (or master in archery :) ) In 3 months I corrected a lot of things I did wrong and improve 10 times more. And here I'm not talking yet about modern archery with technology assists, only traditional :D


So, IF Musashi and others are all real, and you follow him in every aspect you will reach your goal, but now we have other methods to reach this a lot more quickly. Your argument "some sword fighters , such as miyamoto musashi, learned on their own", look how many sword fighters learn this way and were sucessful and how many learn the other way


You can devote all your life to learn this way or you can go in a shorter path and train a entire army in the same time :D

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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 08:09:52 pm »
If possible, I recommend finding a dojo where you can learn kendo...receiving formal instruction is important, especially at beginner level (that applies to all martial arts). I think it's best to have a teacher in disciplines that might cause physical injury if improperly applied / learned. Nevertheless, training alone isn't impossible, it's just harder and riskier in my opinion. Also, from personal experience, since I've always been interested in swordsmanship but didn't have the chance to learn it from somewhere, I practiced some things alone, from descriptions or videos. I started doing suburi (the basic move in kendo) with a  suburito (that's like a short, thick stick used for doing suburi, and much heavier than a normal shinai or bokken), and also tried to imitate what I've seen in a dojo that I've visited. But I thought..starting gradually is boring, why don't I do 1000 every day? So I did...until after a few weeks I had to stop because of an injury, which ironically, is common in kendo, especially if your technique when doing suburi is wrong. So if you do start training alone, I advise to go for steady, gradual progress, to minimize the risk of injury.

About Musashi and the other swordsmen who learned by themselves, they are an example that it can be done. However, those times were different, and samurai as dedicated as Musashi probably spent their whole time just training and thinking about the sword, and testing things out. Those were days when their survival depended on their skills..in our age we can't dedicate that much time to training with a weapon that is no longer used in combat, so our progress wouldn't be as good as theirs.

The KendoWorld forums and youtube channel are a good place to start informing yourself about kendo. Also, I've found the youtube channel of a Japanese sensei called Hiro Imafuji quite helpful and easy to understand for a beginner.

And by the way, kendo is a more modern version of Japanese swordsmanship, and it's not exactly what the samurai used in combat, which was referred as kenjutsu. Musashi's Ni-Ten Ichi Ryu and other styles are all forms of kenjutsu. Kendo evolved from that to become what it is today.

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Re: Kendo techniques
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 09:08:10 pm »
+1 for your long post and dedication to explain to me all of this. I fully understand what you are saying to me and I do know that they spent whole day thinking and trying out all they considered useful. Of course, today, we can not do the same thing. And thanks for giving me advice how to do things. I will check out all you mentioned. =)
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