Enrolling into College

[zbrm]

Sorry for the baitey title, but it was kind of needed.
A friend of mine is not an experienced computer user, by any means, though they do put in a lot of effort. They have decent skill in building websites, but not much more.

Someone I know would like to hack themselves into being enrolled in their local community college. They have no money, and no way of taking out a loan. If they wish to attend school, this might be the only way.

I'm posting this thread to ask how they might go about performing this task, and what steps, in order, would be needed to ensure they made it into class with no negative repercussions.

This person understands that some social engineering skills would be needed, and possibly some web hacking skills, depending on how they went about the task.

Please share your thoughts and ideas, and help my my friend pursue higher education.

[Kulverstukas]

lol you need to realize the enrollment is most likely done on paper, so you'll need to break in to change things, even then with your level of forging documents, it will be anything but successful. This is not a movie, kid, you can't "hack your way into college". The best thing I suggest you do is try harder, or stick around and learn on your own - in IT you don't need a degree.

[zbrm]

lol you need to realize the enrollment is most likely done on paper, so you'll need to break in to change things, even then with your level of forging documents, it will be anything but successful. This is not a movie, kid, you can't "hack your way into college". The best thing I suggest you do is try harder, or stick around and learn on your own - in IT you don't need a degree.

Paper documents are easier to forge than electronic documents. If soik could get the enrollment paper in with better transcripts than they actually have, then it could be successful.
My friend failed every class in highschool, and eventually dropped out, obtaining their GED.

They aren't after the degree, and you can only learn things so well when using the Internet, and being self-taught.

I imagine it'd be easier than you think. It's all a matter of accessing the right people and places.

[zenith]

First off, hold up.

you can only learn things so well when using the Internet, and being self-taught

This is BS. I pride myself in being an autodidact, as I'm sure many others on this forum do. School won't give you any more subject matter than what you can find yourself, or give you any more drive to commit to learning.

As for paper vs. electronic documents, the difficulty for both is going to vary widely. The issue your friend is going to have would not be with the actual enrollment... hell, he could just walk into the registrar's office and enroll any time he wants. The problem is going to be with payment, in which case you're stepping into a whole new level of fraud charges if you do slip up.

I do agree with you that it can be done; I do not agree with you that it would be 'easier than you think'.

I would reconsider your idea, it would be an awful waste to succeed and put all this effort into going to school and then a) get pinched, expelled, and charged, or b) decide that post secondary isn't for you after two months and drop out anyway.

[Greasabilly]

You know if he's trying to get into the community college and money is the issue, he should check out their auditing policy. Many schools offer the same classes for a significantly lower cost or free. You get no credit for this of course but it could be an option.

[zbrm]

First off, hold up.This is BS. I pride myself in being an autodidact, as I'm sure many others on this forum do. School won't give you any more subject matter than what you can find yourself, or give you any more drive to commit to learning.

As for paper vs. electronic documents, the difficulty for both is going to vary widely. The issue your friend is going to have would not be with the actual enrollment... hell, he could just walk into the registrar's office and enroll any time he wants. The problem is going to be with payment, in which case you're stepping into a whole new level of fraud charges if you do slip up.

I do agree with you that it can be done; I do not agree with you that it would be 'easier than you think'.

I would reconsider your idea, it would be an awful waste to succeed and put all this effort into going to school and then a) get pinched, expelled, and charged, or b) decide that post secondary isn't for you after two months and drop out anyway.

I didn't word this as well as I could have, because I didn't think it was needed.
While it's true you can learn a very large portion of information using technology, the fact is, it's all just random information, and generally, you have very little learning path to take. University spreads the information out in a proper format so you learn basics and build off of them with proper form, rather than mashing up bits of self-learned information.

@Greaseabilly There are probably other options to take that cost less or no money, but many I know of require you to meet certain specifications, and others' require you essentially give your soul and those of your children to the government. These are not things my friend is interested in.

What would the feasibility be, say, attending college, without enrolling, and without attempting to get any degree? Also, the legality? As I said, my friend doesn't want the degree. They simply wish to have the knowledge presented in an easily-digestible format, with a proper learning cuvce. They would do the homework, even, but they'd like to have it graded as well, which brings up problems.

This is a hacking forum. No, this is EvilZone. I actually read the rule threads before posting here. Did you? I didn't come to be babied. If what I ask isn't feasible, then help me find a workaround. What I fail at may help others' in the future, and what I succeed at may let me help myself.

[Greasabilly]

@Greaseabilly There are probably other options to take that cost less or no money, but many I know of require you to meet certain specifications, and others' require you essentially give your soul and those of your children to the government. These are not things my friend is interested in.

https://fafsa.ed.gov

Don't know what else to tell you. I've contemplated all kinds of ways to avoid paying for school and its either grants, scholarships, do it yourself or just pay tuition and claim it on your taxes. I know some schools accept payment plans.

[0E 800]

I just show up to the class on the first day, I stay in the back and just keep showing up to class.
IF the professor asks me about my enrollment I give him a sad story.

Seriously, just show up to class, take notes like you are already enrolled. Its community college not a university.

[Kulverstukas]

I've been to several higher-education places and dropped out of all of them (and ironically now work in one as tech support), because I eventually understood that they are not worth my money as I know more or can learn equally as much as they would teach me.
So I can say with certainty that it's an expensive, most of the time not interesting and time consuming thing, you are better off picking a subject and learning through it with the help of edx.org, coursera or even fucking khanacademy - all free of charge. In IT a degree isn't necessary, but ofc it helps... in the end your actions matter, not some paper, no one wants a theorist.

[zenith]

If you're looking for guidance and structure for what to learn, aside from the sites that Kulverstukas mentioned, you can find syllabi for computer science courses as PDFs online. Those outlines are a great place to start.

[rincewind]

Do what OE 800 said, also you have a lot of online courses try coursera.org or edx.org this one is pretty cool also unsw course. No need to try forging docs or getting in risk of trouble.
EDIT: sorry i did not see that you ever mentioned computer science , but anyway there is huge amount of material  on the internet, and you can learn almost anything now

[iTpHo3NiX]

Why not just go to Collage in Germany, its free for international students... Or wait for it... Get a job or Rob a bank. Who the fuck hacks into Collage?

[zbrm]

First off, iTpHo3NiX. Just shut up..

The rest of you, try finding me a place I can (reliably) learn Latin online, or somewhere that will teach me to paint 18th Century art.
Yes, these are classes that are included at my community college.

Seriously, you guys shouldn't be here if you can't manage this little bit of innovation.
And you call yourselves hackers.
"...Rob a bank." Fucking stupid.

[Kulverstukas]

First off, iTpHo3NiX. Just shut up..

The rest of you, try finding me a place I can (reliably) learn Latin online, or somewhere that will teach me to paint 18th Century art.
Yes, these are classes that are included at my community college.

Seriously, you guys shouldn't be here if you can't manage this little bit of innovation.
And you call yourselves hackers.
"...Rob a bank." Fucking stupid.

You are stupid if you're taking things said online so seriously. Flaming on others, specially staff is a bad idea mmk, so chill.
Locked before any more flaming occurs.