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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 07:06:02 pm »
Well, you never know... there might be more to this universe then the current science can explain.
I have experienced and witnessed some rather strange things. I think that there must be some kind of supernatural world too.

I mean, how do mothers "know" that something is wrong with their child hundreads of kilometers away? I have heard many stories where people feel when someone very close dies even if he is very far away. Science can't explain that. Also, how would you explain magic? I know, from reliable friends, that some of the "magic" does work... like caling spirits and asking them questions using all kind of boards and so on....

I am just saying that it is possible for supernatural realm to exist.
Anyone else notice any weird things in this world that science cant explain?

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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 09:43:10 pm »
Well, you never know... there might be more to this universe then the current science can explain.
I have experienced and witnessed some rather strange things. I think that there must be some kind of supernatural world too.

I mean, how do mothers "know" that something is wrong with their child hundreads of kilometers away? I have heard many stories where people feel when someone very close dies even if he is very far away. Science can't explain that. Also, how would you explain magic? I know, from reliable friends, that some of the "magic" does work... like caling spirits and asking them questions using all kind of boards and so on....

I am just saying that it is possible for supernatural realm to exist.
Anyone else notice any weird things in this world that science cant explain?

Ofcourse, everything we have not declared true nor false can be true in the end.
But i have been a practitioner of a religion close to the spiritual world, called wicca,  i have also been fed up that way.

Tough from all my experiences, i must say that i can give a psychological reason to almost every effect experienced in those ways of the spiritual world.
I believe, in the end its all just our own minds manipulating our own worlds, everything is a creation of the brain(how we see and feel it.)
And the real magic one can power, and master is the control of his own brain.
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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 11:30:04 pm »
And the real magic one can power, and master is the control of his own brain.

True...By very strong and focused mind people are able to lower or increase their body temperature or heart rate, trigger adrenaline release, or even recover from sickness.


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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2012, 07:05:08 pm »
I did it,      almost:P.    i had a very awkward dream (no details) and in the dream i asked my girlfriend who a strange guy was out of my dream, then everything became vivid, and i started to feel temperature.
But then it faded,  i tried to spin around but it did not worked out, i was not lucid enough anymore,   then the whole dream faded like some kind of a brain security measure.
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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 09:15:22 pm »
nice factionwars :)

For some reason I am lazy to try... I had quite realistic dreams, but never a fully controlled dream. I doubt it is fully possible. Maybe semi-aware dream, but not fully... because then lucid dreaming would be more popular.... I mean.. that would be better than any game or simulation.. I could do anything I desire without any real life consequences... :)

Anyway, if you succeed, and find it any good, I will do it too.

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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2012, 10:07:10 pm »
nice factionwars :)

For some reason I am lazy to try... I had quite realistic dreams, but never a fully controlled dream. I doubt it is fully possible. Maybe semi-aware dream, but not fully... because then lucid dreaming would be more popular.... I mean.. that would be better than any game or simulation.. I could do anything I desire without any real life consequences... :)

Anyway, if you succeed, and find it any good, I will do it too.

The biggest reason its not as populair as you would imagine is that it takes practice, and not a little.
You will not be able to do it in a few days, weeks or even maybe months.
I even read about people who practiced, and got their first results after a year.
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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2012, 11:37:23 pm »
So, lets say we practice everything proparly for a year or even two... what results can we expect? What level of conciousness in a dream? What level of control? Would it feel like digital virtual reality (VR)?

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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2012, 01:45:41 am »
I did it,      almost:P.    i had a very awkward dream (no details) and in the dream i asked my girlfriend who a strange guy was out of my dream, then everything became vivid, and i started to feel temperature.
But then it faded,  i tried to spin around but it did not worked out, i was not lucid enough anymore,   then the whole dream faded like some kind of a brain security measure.

Punch a hole in that firewall!! :D


@atsuktuvas- It is more possible than you can possibly imagine. Factionwars is right, it takes a lot of practice. It's not the same for everyone but you can expect to see lucid dreams not as dreaming, but as another realm. I mean think about it. Sleeping is a third of your entire life. It is ridiculous to just discount it as a fleeting brain activity.
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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2012, 09:48:22 am »
Ok, so where do I start?

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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2012, 06:38:58 pm »
Ok, so where do I start?
Read the post? read ld4all.com
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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2012, 11:21:07 pm »
:) you wont believe what happened.
I started writing down dreams and doing reality tests and all kind of other stuff, and, today, after 2 days since starting, I had a weird dream. It was so deep that my alarm clock did not wake me up. However, it felt EXTRA real and, I remembered every detail. It wasn't a lucid dream, because I could not do stuff like fly, I could just do stuff that was supposed to happen in that scenario. However, it was the most vivid dream I ever had. Even a bit weird. It felt so real that when I woke up, it took me like 10 minutes to realise where I am and what is happening. I completely lost the sense of time when I just woke up and only after 10 minutes everything came back to me, that all of it was a dream and that this is real life and so on. Amazing. Never had that before.

Also, the most amazing thing is, my eyes were wet from tears. Lots of tears. The dream was very sad and very touching and I was mourning and crying in the dream, and when I woke up those emotions did not go away for a few hours.

:)

Strange. Weird.

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Re: Establishing a lucid dream
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 11:25:53 pm »
:) you wont believe what happened.
I started writing down dreams and doing reality tests and all kind of other stuff, and, today, after 2 days since starting, I had a weird dream. It was so deep that my alarm clock did not wake me up. However, it felt EXTRA real and, I remembered every detail. It wasn't a lucid dream, because I could not do stuff like fly, I could just do stuff that was supposed to happen in that scenario. However, it was the most vivid dream I ever had. Even a bit weird. It felt so real that when I woke up, it took me like 10 minutes to realise where I am and what is happening. I completely lost the sense of time when I just woke up and only after 10 minutes everything came back to me, that all of it was a dream and that this is real life and so on. Amazing. Never had that before.

Also, the most amazing thing is, my eyes were wet from tears. Lots of tears. The dream was very sad and very touching and I was mourning and crying in the dream, and when I woke up those emotions did not go away for a few hours.

 :)

Strange. Weird.


Dreaming is more tangible than people think it is. Writing down dreams is the best way I know of to stimulate them. I started lucid dreaming before I knew to call it or that anyone else has ever done it. But before they were lucid they were deep and emotional....kinda like your dream  :D
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