Confused and Curious (A_lot_of_winodws_users_here?_())

[lucid]

So now I want to change the thread to: Confused and Curious (A_lot_of_ubuntu_users?_())

[Snayler]

Agree with lucid, I thought most people here would go for arch, debian or gentoo.


On-Topic, I mainly use windows because the course I'm taking requires it, and because of the games (I have a Optimus enabled laptop, it won't play nicely with linux). Other than that, I have multiple VM's with various OS's (Windows server, windows xp, ubuntu, backtrack, arch,...) and a secondary laptop with Backtrack and XP, on which I mainly use Backtrack.

[Corrupted_Fear]

I use Windows for Gaming (no starcraft on linux) and school work, but other then that I'm pretty much full Linux. But this isn't saying much because most of the time I'm either gaming or doing school work so most of the time I'm on windows :\

[proxx]

Wow nice to see all these replies

Now the point about gaming I can fully understand.
There arnt much games native under linux and however great WINE is it still sucks.
Sometimes I play this game called Savage2 which is great and runs native on *nix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLfFZ2hYQOw
Its free and its dieing sadly.
Valve/steam is currently being developed for linux and is soon expect to fully work(psst performance is better )

I also have an optimus laptop, which was the worst thing i could have bought, im amongst millions here damnit.
Fuck nvidia.

Right so I love linux vs windows warfare but indeed there is plenty of shit on the net already stateting every possible argument.

Couple months ago I deleted the last NTFS partition I had on one of my older machines and im proud to say I have no windows installation.
If course I grew up in a windows world im not that old.
After fighting windows for years, stripping explorer.exe and all kinda crazy shit, tweaked the hell outta it.
I started asking myself what fuck I was trying to do, its reverse logic.
Instead of stripping something down I wanted to have something that was according to my rules.
Hell I even stopped computing for a couple years.

Then I went head down into linux, I was lost, I had no fucking clue whatsoever.
I sat in front of a PC for the first time in my life.

I battled it , got REAALLY frustrated , fucked up just about anything.
Now its love.
Im running Arch with Awesome WM.
Ran Gentoo,debian,fedora,ubuntu,suse,centos,slackware,dreamlinux and a couple others.
Iam still married to arch.

I used to have big trouble with drivers and all that kinda shit but sometimes it just requires knowledge and a lot of reading.
My main machine which also runs optimus is fully working, in fact I have far more control over the hardware than on windows.
One example is the battery life, using laptop-mode-tools and tweaking it + some other things I almost doubled the battery life compared to windows.
Eat that microsoft


INDEED WHY UBUNTU !!???

*edit*
*Scratching head
Rereading my own post.
Is sound enthusiastic like a child with a new toy lol

[lucid]

I thought most people here would go for arch, debian or gentoo.

This reflects my feelings on that quite nicely:

you may not enter the forbidden land of gentoo

[silenthunder]

Agree with lucid, I thought most people here would go for arch, debian or gentoo.


On-Topic, I mainly use windows because the course I'm taking requires it, and because of the games (I have a Optimus enabled laptop, it won't play nicely with linux). Other than that, I have multiple VM's with various OS's (Windows server, windows xp, ubuntu, backtrack, arch,...) and a secondary laptop with Backtrack and XP, on which I mainly use Backtrack.

You reminded me, it's necessary for me to be using windows right now because I'm studying for my A+ exams coming up in spring.

As for the "why Ubuntu", it was the first *nix I heard of. It seems like Arch linux is really popular though, maybe I'll try that out and use it instead.

[theellimist]

Agree with lucid, I thought most people here would go for arch, debian or gentoo.

Yeah I originally was planning on moving on from Ubuntu once I learned how to use a linux system, but I am just too busy to mess with it now, so Ubuntu it is! At least on my laptop. As far as Windows goes, I use it on my main computer because I just find I have less problems with it working with common file types, etc because everyone uses it.

[lifecabal]

First, windows can run hardcore game. Second, It is user friendly with almost no problem or error. Third, there are ton of app for windows. Fourth, Some  website still require you to use IE.

[proxx]

Are you serious.
User friendly?  anything but that.
Its the illusion because people dont know better.
Whats more user friendly than full control?
Ubuntu takes one click of a button to install the graphic driver.
The rest of the driver work out-of-the-box 99% of the time, something windows cant beat.


No problems and errors?
Lol windows is nothing but errors and problems which are impossible to debug because everything is locked down my microsoft.
Blue screen here, random crash there.
Laggy, unstable way too much bloat and shit barely anyone ever uses.

Really from which planet did you come?
Have you ever used linux in the first place?
Dont mean to be flaming but are you able to compare..

Ive used windows for along time and exactly this is the reason I no longer do.

[Snayler]

No problems and errors?
Lol windows is nothing but errors and problems which are impossible to debug because everything is locked down my microsoft.
Blue screen here, random crash there.

My graphics driver will always cause a BSOD under windows 7, and it was the original system the laptop came with. Nvidia and Microsoft, they still don't know what's causing the problem, as various users with the same setup as mine (nvidia with optimus tech) are reporting this issue. So yeah, it sucks...

Laggy, unstable way too much bloat and shit barely anyone ever uses.

As for this, after a fresh install I always cut down everything possible (services, startup processes) in order to maximize performance of the OS. It sure gives me a lot of work as there are tons of services one won't ever need. Oh, and no aero shit, I like my Windows 98 look

[proxx]

Yes thats why i used to do.
But thats totally reversed logic.
First you take something than strip it down.
You buy a villa and than break it down to the cellar.

I realized I was doing the inverted logic thing.

[lucid]

I agree with was proxx said. Windows is not user friendly because if you get an error you are usually forced to stare at it blankly and then restart your computer hoping it works. With linux you can actually interact with the problem and fix it.

People think Windows is user friendly because there are programs for everything.
Example: I need to split a file into four chunks. While in windows "all you have to do" is get WinRAR, open it and use it. In linux it is as simple as this:

split --bytes=50M splitfile.zip

Done.

[Ragehottie]

I use windows as my primary on my desktop. I am dual booting with fedora which I also rarely use. Mostly when I need a quick php project or something. The main reason I use windows is Netflix won't work on linux and youtube videos are all small like when I full screen them.


I also have in my possession a latop that has Mac os X on it. I have a bt5 on a usb that I use on it mostly. I have a little bit of every os

[lifecabal]

Yup I have to admit that windows don't allow user to solve the problem themselves. But it save time for me since it is hardly crash or anything(While in ubuntu i do crash a lot).

[proxx]

Gonna pull this up again, im a bitch.

It sounds like im gonna be the typical linux-nazi and tell you that if your windows is running more stable than your linux install than you doing something seriously wrong.
Ive had i think 1 crash in the last month or 2, probably even my own mistake as I was messing with rollback packages due to fucked kernel.
Its really up to you its in fact more stable than windows 1,2,3,5,7,8 or 11 doesnt matter.
Its no suprise most servers run either linux or BSD..
Why are they often harder to break into..

Oke im gonna stop this, im  just bored.