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RIP Aaron Swartz
« on: January 14, 2013, 10:02:58 am »
I'm not a Reddit user, nor do I make use of RSS, but it's still sad news :( .

http://www.news.com.au/technology/reddit-founder-aaron-swartz-dead-at-26/story-e6frfrnr-1226552874830
Tons of Academics are now sharing their aricles online as protest:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23pdftribute&src=hash

Links scraped from Twitter hashtag #pdftribute:
http://pdftribute.net/

I thought some people might be interested in this news article and his reasons.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 10:04:19 am by lordarnoud »

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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 10:11:54 am »
lol. Dude couldn't take the pressure running that site...

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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 10:21:51 am »
That is sad news indeed, according to the post he had depression, and with the over-zealous pressure from his prosecutors (MIT) he couldn't handle the whole incident so he done the unthinkable, what can i say, a so young and talented person shouldn't have this end. May God rest his Soul. RIP . :(

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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 11:08:12 am »
That is sad news indeed, according to the post he had depression, and with the over-zealous pressure from his prosecutors (MIT) he couldn't handle the whole incident so he done the unthinkable, what can i say, a so young and talented person shouldn't have this end. May God rest his Soul. RIP . :(
MIT wouldnt do something like this belive me they have different phylosopy a girl told me

"For those blaming JSTOR here about Aaron Swartz's untimely death, they & ITHAKA decided not to pursue the case, it was the US Attorney's Office who were prosecuting. Elliott Bledsoe & I are suggesting that in Aaron's memory, JSTOR name their new "Register & Read" program after him. Sign/comment/share here if you agree: https://www.facebook.com/reallybigroadtrip/posts/456156304432261 or http://www.reallybigroadtrip.com/jstor-open-letter"

but Im just wondering what did he hacked? it was like free books I dont understand but I know that he was against copyright which is epic he created RSS at the age of 14 is amazing its sad that he commited suicide

also anonymous hacked MIT site:
http://techblogs.mit.edu/news/2013/01/message-from-anonymous-found-on-cogen-mit-edu/
and MIT director talks about the topic
http://techblogs.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-shot-2013-01-13-at-4.21.29-PM.png
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 12:38:25 pm »
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Sign/comment/share here if you agree:


Already did, thanks for the links.

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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 03:47:37 pm »
Honestly I can't feel bad for him, nor wish his soul to rest. He did this himself. Killing yourself is selfish and if he felt that's what he needed to do, fuck him. Nothing more than a selfish prick...

Sorry guys but it needed to be said...
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 02:54:25 am »
Honestly I can't feel bad for him, nor wish his soul to rest. He did this himself. Killing yourself is selfish and if he felt that's what he needed to do, fuck him. Nothing more than a selfish prick...

Sorry guys but it needed to be said...

I have to agree with this. Suicide is extremely selfish, for the `reasons` alone. If I ever kill myself, it would be to do everyone else a favor, or to save another life if deserving.

It is a regretful story and sadish, I agree. The `message` could be a good thing I guess. But the heavy hitters already bowed out by the time he did it. He could have won the cases.

Also, what about Fabio Varesano? Did no one talk or speak about the loss the hacker community took with Fabio's death?
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 04:53:31 am »
http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully


His Harvard friend thought the government was quite a dick on this one.

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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 05:32:28 am »
Also, what about Fabio Varesano? Did no one talk or speak about the loss the hacker community took with Fabio's death?

Varesano wasn't a sensationalistic media figure.

Same deal was with Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie. Ritchie died only a week after, but he wasn't given any real attention by the mass media. Wonder if the media will bat an eyelid when Woz and Cap'n Crunch kick the bucket.
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 05:45:31 am »
he was facing over a million dollar fine and 50 years in prison for file sharing, something millions of people do everyday. no one deserves to face that. RIP  :'(
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 10:00:08 am »
He was *depressed*, and people around him couldn't help him because they were too Selfish to understand what he was going through, probably too selfish and ignorant like both of you, that cant understand what is depression and what tricks plays to the human mind/soul. <3


Honestly I can't feel bad for him, nor wish his soul to rest. He did this himself. Killing yourself is selfish and if he felt that's what he needed to do, fuck him. Nothing more than a selfish prick...

Sorry guys but it needed to be said...


I have to agree with this. Suicide is extremely selfish,


I agree with vezzy about the "sensationalistic media figure" and especially about Sir Dennis Ritchie, he was a true innovator.
Varesano wasn't a sensationalistic media figure.

Same deal was with Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie. Ritchie died only a week after, but he wasn't given any real attention by the mass media. Wonder if the media will bat an eyelid when Woz and Cap'n Crunch kick the bucket.

 Fabio Varesano ? what can i say about him this is the most tragic news, he will be greatly missed, i couldn't  believe after i read his last post on his blog that a couple days later he passed away. Speechless :(
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 05:21:43 pm »
My view is this:

people who kill themselves have personal issues and the suicide is no ones fault but their own.
There are thousands of people who are being prosecuted for much more serious stuff, and only very few of them commit suicides. So we can rule this out as the main cause.

The main cause of suicide is a wrong view of life and the world in the guys mind. Simple. Most of the time the events that are happening in their lives take all the blame, when in reality almost everyone goes through hell times and most just deal with it.
I can't believe people actually say stuff like "rest in peace". Rest in peace where??

These people who commit suicide don't have respect for their loved ones like friends and family.
Instead of quiting life in such a coward way, people could instead finish their lives by doing something for others, doing something that makes a difference.
And most people who commit suicides are not even in much trouble compared to some others.

What I am saying is that even thought the death of a person is a very sad thing, and it would have been much better for others and him in the long run not to have died, killing himself has no excuses what so ever and its no once fault but his own. And stop all this "censorship killed him" bullshit. And no, I am not disliking the actual person in any way, he might have been an amazing guy who did more then I will ever do. That has nothing to do with my view on suicide. Its nothing personal.

I guess some will be offended, but I couldn't care less.
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 06:13:34 pm »
My view is this:

people who kill themselves have personal issues and the suicide is no ones fault but their own.
There are thousands of people who are being prosecuted for much more serious stuff, and only very few of them commit suicides. So we can rule this out as the main cause.

The main cause of suicide is a wrong view of life and the world in the guys mind. Simple. Most of the time the events that are happening in their lives take all the blame, when in reality almost everyone goes through hell times and most just deal with it.
I can't believe people actually say stuff like "rest in peace". Rest in peace where??

These people who commit suicide don't have respect for their loved ones like friends and family.
Instead of quiting life in such a coward way, people could instead finish their lives by doing something for others, doing something that makes a difference.
And most people who commit suicides are not even in much trouble compared to some others.

What I am saying is that even thought the death of a person is a very sad thing, and it would have been much better for others and him in the long run not to have died, killing himself has no excuses what so ever and its no once fault but his own. And stop all this "censorship killed him" bullshit. And no, I am not disliking the actual person in any way, he might have been an amazing guy who did more then I will ever do. That has nothing to do with my view on suicide. Its nothing personal.

I guess some will be offended, but I couldn't care less.

look, while you raise some points, these are not applicable everywhere.
Suicide is just self-euthanasia..
nothing different then quitting a game when you know you've lost. When there is no other option than to die with your dignity intact and end your suffering.

some people have others who will feel sad, some do not.
taking my own example, there is just one person who will feel sad for more than a day if I am to die.
If one day I would face a similar situation, then i'd probably do the same. I was never afraid of dying... And if I ever run out of options then this is the natural course of action. there are always many options.. All keep changing... But this option... it remains constant... And the more dire the situation, the more appealing it becomes
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 07:11:03 pm »
Well I see what you mean, and if someone was being transported to a concentration camp where he will be tortured every day and later probably killed slowly in a cruel way then yeah, I could understand why someone would just kill himself. That would make sense.

But I don't get why would a sane person kill himself because their girlfriend left them, or because their business went bankrupt, or even because of something more serious like a prosecution that could lead to prison.

Yeah, its not easy, but nothing is over yet. You haven't lost yet. There is still a chance to do something great. After all, if you do end up going to prison, and its just to much for you and you cant bare it anymore, you can always kill yourself there once you are actually experiencing it. At least try. But I have friends in prison, and its not how most people imagine it. Unless you are a serial killer or something like that, you would not be put in level 3/4/5 prison anyway. Just saying.

So yeah, people can be really depressed and think that life is not worth living. However it is not an excuse to kill yourself. Its nothing but a delusion in your mind.

But then once again thats only my view. I am right in my eyes just as the person who commits suicide is right in his eyes. We could ask which one of us is more right. Each of us would have an opposite answer. What does this mean? It means that everything I said in this post is my opinion and not fact.
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Re: RIP Aaron Swartz
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 07:20:01 pm »
Honestly I can't feel bad for him, nor wish his soul to rest. He did this himself. Killing yourself is selfish and if he felt that's what he needed to do, fuck him. Nothing more than a selfish prick...

Sorry guys but it needed to be said...
Yeah I have always said that suicide is for pussies who can't handle real life. Anyway, still sucks because he wasn't your typical loser. I really hate the Attorney's Office, they are corrupt if you ask me.