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Community => General discussion => : silenthunder June 19, 2013, 03:38:12 AM

: NSA surveillance
: silenthunder June 19, 2013, 03:38:12 AM
So by now I'm sure everybody's heard about the NSA knowing everything about our private information etc. etc. (what else did we expect?), but of you Firefox users, have you noticed on the homepage that Mozilla has a link on the bottom that leads to a letter to be sent to Congress on the peoples behalf demanding that they stop/illegalize the surveillance and publicize everything that they have done? For those non-firefox users, here is the link to it:

https://optin.stopwatching.us/

What's everybody's thoughts on this, and did you sign it?
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: Darkvision June 19, 2013, 04:26:20 AM
I cant use FF on this pc due to its memory leak(it either crashes after an hour, or bogs down horribly. damn shitty pc). that being said thanks for sharing. While i think it should be fought for/signed i dont think it will do much good. By that i mean next time they try this it will just be that much better hidden. It can take care of the problem, but not the disease(the disease being congress itself, not a gov agency, as they derive their powers from congress). Anyway still worth supporting.



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: kenjoe41 June 19, 2013, 04:35:36 AM
I signed it from the link some maybe two or three days back. Is it legit?
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: Pak_Track June 19, 2013, 04:47:59 AM
The truth is guys, the bad thing in the world is the US Government. Countries just don't have the balls to speak up against it. Now that Obama has realized how the peoples thoughts are changing, he fears a revolution. So he is surveying all of his citizens because he fears them. All tyrants go through a stage like this in their rule. It's just Roman history repeating itself. No matter how much you raise your voices, nothing will happen.
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: Chef June 19, 2013, 05:55:42 AM
Yeah i signed that.
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: Pak_Track June 19, 2013, 05:59:23 AM
It could be a honeypot for all we know. To get more personal information. Or to get access to browsers outside the USA.
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: Super_mario666 June 19, 2013, 06:02:59 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLV8agpKt2njTZ18lSutbcEBtL3pJ89pw3cktq0Lc7LkevGNMeQw)
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: silenthunder June 19, 2013, 07:12:55 AM
It could be a honeypot for all we know. To get more personal information. Or to get access to browsers outside the USA.

Off-topic: What's this new "evilite" thing? Never seen it before
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: Super_mario666 June 19, 2013, 07:16:19 AM
Off-topic: What's this new "evilite" thing? Never seen it before
just his profile pic
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: Pak_Track June 19, 2013, 07:17:02 AM
i dunno. It's just a suffix for evilzone. Like Canadian, American, Indian.etc. We have Evilite.  :P
It was just something I made up.
And it does go pretty well as this:

(http://i.imgur.com/silyvfE.png)
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: silenthunder June 19, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
i dunno. It's just a suffix for evilzone. Like Canadian, American, Indian.etc. We have Evilite.  :P
It was just something I made up.
And it does go pretty well as this:

:O I really like it. Is mario right that its just a profile pic?
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: proxx June 19, 2013, 07:46:13 AM
:O I really like it. Is mario right that its just a profile pic?

I was first with mine :P
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: Code.Illusionist June 19, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Thanks for link. Singed.
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: vezzy June 20, 2013, 11:03:03 AM
You know what pisses me off?

The fact that people are actually surprised by this.

For fuck's sake: ECHELON, DCSNet, Carnivore, CALEA, FISA, etc. All of that shit has been public knowledge for a long time. The NSA surveys you and intercepts all of your communications, the evidence was rampant and in plain view, but the majority were sheep or denialists.

Then along comes Snowden who reveals the latest in the likely dozens of NSA projects, and suddenly everyone goes: "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA HOW COULD YOU?!"

Fucking please. Of course people have to wake up at some point, but to see people genuinely expressing shock and surprise by this in our information age is simply disgusting to me. Not like they can do anything about it.
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: proxx June 20, 2013, 12:57:45 PM
You know what pisses me off?

The fact that people are actually surprised by this.

For fuck's sake: ECHELON, DCSNet, Carnivore, CALEA, FISA, etc. All of that shit has been public knowledge for a long time. The NSA surveys you and intercepts all of your communications, the evidence was rampant and in plain view, but the majority were sheep or denialists.

Then along comes Snowden who reveals the latest in the likely dozens of NSA projects, and suddenly everyone goes: "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA HOW COULD YOU?!"

Fucking please. Of course people have to wake up at some point, but to see people genuinely expressing shock and surprise by this in our information age is simply disgusting to me. Not like they can do anything about it.

I agree with you except for the "not like they can do anything abou it" part.
Honestly I believe things can be done about this madness it however would require large scale organisation of indviduals.
Lol obama justified it by saying "we prevented at least 50 incidents" by doing this.
I didnt take him for moron/liar up to this point.

Its basically "we fuck your privacy so you dont have to be scared" 
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: Mordred June 20, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
You know what pisses me off?

The fact that people are actually surprised by this.

For fuck's sake: ECHELON, DCSNet, Carnivore, CALEA, FISA, etc. All of that shit has been public knowledge for a long time. The NSA surveys you and intercepts all of your communications, the evidence was rampant and in plain view, but the majority were sheep or denialists.

Then along comes Snowden who reveals the latest in the likely dozens of NSA projects, and suddenly everyone goes: "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA HOW COULD YOU?!"

Fucking please. Of course people have to wake up at some point, but to see people genuinely expressing shock and surprise by this in our information age is simply disgusting to me. Not like they can do anything about it.

[offtopic]Your way of thinking makes me wonder if we don't originate from the same country. Or close at least  ::) [/offtopic]

People don't give a shit man. I've asked random people I know and some responded with: "so what if they see what I do? I don't do anything illegal on the Internet"... And I just feel like fucking punching them in the face. What stops me though, and what makes me not feel upset when I see these kind of news, is this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8rh6qqsmxNs

Perfect explanation for both why we live like this, but also why people are the way they are.

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: proxx June 20, 2013, 04:14:51 PM
[offtopic]Your way of thinking makes me wonder if we don't originate from the same country. Or close at least  ::) [/offtopic]

People don't give a shit man. I've asked random people I know and some responded with: "so what if they see what I do? I don't do anything illegal on the Internet"... And I just feel like fucking punching them in the face. What stops me though, and what makes me not feel upset when I see these kind of news, is this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8rh6qqsmxNs

Perfect explanation for both why we live like this, but also why people are the way they are.

I fucking hate the "I dont have anything to hide" argument.
In that case you wouldnt mind me hanging a camera in your shower either.
(I hope its a women :P)
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: Chef June 20, 2013, 06:56:43 PM
The truth is guys, the bad thing in the world is the US Government. Countries just don't have the balls to speak up against it. Now that Obama has realized how the peoples thoughts are changing, he fears a revolution. So he is surveying all of his citizens because he fears them. All tyrants go through a stage like this in their rule. It's just Roman history repeating itself. No matter how much you raise your voices, nothing will happen.


You are 100% correct man. It is so sad that the country/world has become this way but i guess it's just part of life/past history.
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: lucid June 20, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
but i guess it's just part of life

And that's exactly why they get away with it..
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: Chef June 20, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
And that's exactly why they get away with it..

True. We could always revolt against the government and be labeled terrorists and rebels for defending the constitution they are slowly but surely rewriting.