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: Alien Megastructure?
: z3ro October 23, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
The Internet is going crazy about this 'explained' body around the star KIC 8462852.

http://www.iflscience.com/have-we-really-discovered-huge-alien-megastructure-around-star
http://www.iflscience.com/space/what-are-odds-alien-megastructure-blocking-light-distant-star
http://www.iflscience.com/space/astronomers-asked-observe-alien-megastructure-star-more-detail


Any thoughts guys?
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: Darkvision October 23, 2015, 10:46:47 AM
It is obviously a remote possibility by the science, then again so are any of the other possible answers(that we KNOW of). So interesting regardless, and perhaps amazing. time will tell.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: Mordred October 23, 2015, 11:11:50 AM
If that is indeed a Dyson Sphere we have a 50/50 chance of getting fucked by the owners.

Dyson Sphere means that the particular civilization that built it is a rank II on the Kardashev Scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale). That inherently implies that they have fully colonized their own solar system and are capable of harnessing energy directly from a star.

I don't think I have to go into detail how bad that kind of technological level might be for us as a species if these theoretical aliens wouldn't really like us that much  ;).
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: rincewind October 23, 2015, 06:08:02 PM
That is awesome, I honestly hope that we will make contact with alien race in my lifetime.
I don't think I have to go into detail how bad that kind of technological level might be for us as a species if these theoretical aliens wouldn't really like us that much
Maybe they just wouldn't  give a fuck about us and just use our star, or they may be ultra friendly(if they know the concept of it, is it universal?) and share knowledge with us.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: z3ro October 23, 2015, 07:06:16 PM
That thing is 1500 light years away. So, whatever we're looking at, it's 1500 years in THE PAST. :o

Anyway, my real issue is, what impact is the Discovery of another intelligent life form gonna have on our species? Maybe religious implication? Food for thought.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: proxx October 23, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
That thing is 1500 light years away. So, whatever we're looking at, it's 1500 years in THE PAST. :o

Anyway, my real issue is, what impact is the Discovery of another intelligent life form gonna have on our species? Maybe religious implication? Food for thought.

They have had consistant and explosive growth of proof of there not being a god, it won't help.
Stupid be stupid.

And yes thats a long time ago, chances are , a species (if all of this is remotely true) advanced enough to have large , I mean massive objects in space, than 1500 years from there they could be capable of interstellar/galactic travel and maybe more.

: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: Darkvision October 23, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
They have had consistant and explosive growth of proof of there not being a god, it won't help.
Stupid be stupid.

And yes thats a long time ago, chances are , a species (if all of this is remotely true) advanced enough to have large , I mean massive objects in space, than 1500 years from there they could be capable of interstellar/galactic travel and maybe more.

my guess? they are sitting in their version of 4chan laughing their asses off that it took us this long to find them :P.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: z3ro October 23, 2015, 11:56:47 PM
Na. To them, we're not even an intelligent life form.
Maybe their 'astronomers' spotted us a long time ago and reported back as "Planet with water and life. But no sign of intelligent life form."  ;D
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: evolut1o December 17, 2015, 04:49:46 AM
I am a strong believer that an alien race had already discovered us a long time ago, maybe they are studying us and trying to figure out what kind of race are we or how long we will endure before killing ourselves.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: kurp December 27, 2015, 06:26:03 AM
If other intelligent life is confirmed in the Universe, the scarcity of it would confirm a "Great Filter."
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: Kolsulfr January 09, 2016, 10:54:16 PM
These kinds of stories irritate me to no end. Particularly because whenever I hear a story like this I usually take the time to find the root source the information is being extracted from and it's almost never anything remotely like what the fucking articles make it out to be. All I seem to be finding on it right now is a mountain of craze-spawned articles from misleading news sites (the good ones), shitty news sites, and mostly completely worthless pseudo-news sites. But (exaggerated) from what I remember, and how it usually seems to go...

Researcher 1: Hm, that's fucking strange, we haven't seen anything quite like this before, can't figure out an explanation for this one yet.

Researcher 2: What if it's like, an alien mega-structure?.

Researcher 1: Well, usually I'd beat you to death with a fucking shovel for even recommending that, but this time I'd estimate there's about a %0.00000000000843 chance of aliens, so, it's not a flat 0, it's feasible enough to be considered.

Guys Who Look for Aliens: Shit, we might as well take a look, it's the only vaguely promising lead we've got.

News Sites: Legitimate scientists used the words alien mega-structure with an ENTIRELY different tone then how we're about to present it! But that's irrelevant! Read our articles!

Conspiracy Sites and Random Simple Minded Dipshits: OH MY GOD THEY FOUND A FUCKING ALIEN MEGASTRUCTURE JESUS FUCK IT'S REAL THIS IS HAPPENING SOMEONE IN NASA SAID ALIEN THAT MEANS THEY'RE REAL AND WE REALLY FOUND THEM THIS TIME AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHCEFSEFC!!!



I'm sure there's life out there somewhere, it's extremely improbable we're alone, but fuck.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: proxx January 10, 2016, 11:11:33 AM
These kinds of stories irritate me to no end. Particularly because whenever I hear a story like this I usually take the time to find the root source the information is being extracted from and it's almost never anything remotely like what the fucking articles make it out to be. All I seem to be finding on it right now is a mountain of craze-spawned articles from misleading news sites (the good ones), shitty news sites, and mostly completely worthless pseudo-news sites. But (exaggerated) from what I remember, and how it usually seems to go...

Researcher 1: Hm, that's fucking strange, we haven't seen anything quite like this before, can't figure out an explanation for this one yet.

Researcher 2: What if it's like, an alien mega-structure?.

Researcher 1: Well, usually I'd beat you to death with a fucking shovel for even recommending that, but this time I'd estimate there's about a %0.00000000000843 chance of aliens, so, it's not a flat 0, it's feasible enough to be considered.

Guys Who Look for Aliens: Shit, we might as well take a look, it's the only vaguely promising lead we've got.

News Sites: Legitimate scientists used the words alien mega-structure with an ENTIRELY different tone then how we're about to present it! But that's irrelevant! Read our articles!

Conspiracy Sites and Random Simple Minded Dipshits: OH MY GOD THEY FOUND A FUCKING ALIEN MEGASTRUCTURE JESUS FUCK IT'S REAL THIS IS HAPPENING SOMEONE IN NASA SAID ALIEN THAT MEANS THEY'RE REAL AND WE REALLY FOUND THEM THIS TIME AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHCEFSEFC!!!



I'm sure there's life out there somewhere, it's extremely improbable that's not the case, but fuck.
Depends entirely on how you look at it, the chance that we are alone is actually much smaller, these stories I agree hold no real fundament.
We are not special, if it happens here it probably happens throughout the universe.
: Re: Alien Megastructure?
: Kolsulfr January 10, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
Depends entirely on how you look at it, the chance that we are alone is actually much smaller, these stories I agree hold no real fundament.
We are not special, if it happens here it probably happens throughout the universe.

I modified the last line of my previous post, the way I worded it was a bit confusing.

I don't disagree, it is indeed highly unlikely we're alone. I just can't stand it when people spread misinformation without taking the time to actually check the core source(s) and get the actual probability before going into a craze about situations they don't understand. Especially when the researchers themselves don't claim to understand it yet.