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Hacking and Security => Hacking and Security => : sp0rk January 03, 2012, 12:55:32 AM
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What do you guys use? I've always heard people only use laptops, that is if they don't want to get busted, however I use both my laptop and my desktop. Nothing too risky so I don't have to worry but as I get better should I exclusively use my laptop? If so, I will re-install Ubuntu on it, because Cygwin annoys me. However, I have a netbook(HP) and the wireless card is incompatible with network stumbler. Does this mean it'll be incompatible with airsnort/aircrack and all that?
P.S: Could someone tell me how to find a list of available wifis on ubuntu 11.10? On Windows there's simply the icon in the taskbar, you click choose network-- pretty self-explanatory-- but in ubuntu I can't find anything like that and when I go to network manager is asks for specific IP, etc, as in starting a new wireless connection or accessing your home one, not wardriving.
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Mostly use my desktop. Only thing I use my laptop for is school shit and other portable-related tasks. Like vacation and so forth. Possibly because I only got two shitty laptops for every-day-use tho.
Also, if you need a laptop to "not get busted" you must be a retard stupid.
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Staying anonymous depends on many things. It does not matter whether you use laptop or desktop, but it matters on which software (OS, applications, etc.) you do use.
For example, if you're trying to get into website trough the http protocol, you should note that your browser automatically sends the so called User Agent containing (not much) information about the user, the web server (usually) logs your requests, your IP address, etc. So using laptop wouldn't help you if you just hit it with your home IP and expect to be undetected.. Well, I'm not going to write whole article about anonymity, or which software you should use to stay anonymous. You should got my point by now.
Aircrack has a list of supported cards. Just google it, or check their site.. I'm sure I've saw
it somewhere.
If you have the compatible driver installed, (and I presume you use GNOME by default) run nm-applet.. It'll create an icon on your task bar, and the connecting process should be similar to the one on Windows.
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Sorry guys didn't mean to come off as someone who hasn't done any research on his own. I guess the broader question would be, do most of you guys use desktops with SOCKS proxies/VPNs whatever or wardrive with a laptop. I've seen "never hack from home" as an ostensibly accepted maxim in the Security community.
Thanks NeX for the nm-applet suggestion I hadn't come across it +1.
Sorry if it was a stupid question Ande
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there are no such things as stupid qeustions ;)
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I use a laptop because I don't have a desktop :D
I am studying abroad so I don't think I would need a desktop when a laptop is fine for me.
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The obvious advantage of laptops in terms of anonymity is that you can connect to public/private wifi routers far away from your house, and hack through their connections (changing mac address at the end of course).
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there are no such things as stupid qeustions ;)
Ya ya, Nice one.
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Sorry guys didn't mean to come off as someone who hasn't done any research on his own. I guess the broader question would be, do most of you guys use desktops with SOCKS proxies/VPNs whatever or wardrive with a laptop. I've seen "never hack from home" as an ostensibly accepted maxim in the Security community.
Thanks NeX for the nm-applet suggestion I hadn't come across it +1.
Sorry if it was a stupid question Ande
No worries mate. Yes, I do use SOCKS 4/5 or VPN on my desktop when needed ;)
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desktop - powerful and cheap
laptop - weak and expensive
long live desktops!
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laptop - weak and expensive
weak? no. Laptops can be as powerful as Desktops.
Good example is Alienware.
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weak? no. Laptops can be as powerful as Desktops.
Good example is Alienware.
but it would cost you a little more than a desktop's price with the same specs, right?
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but it would cost you a little more than a desktop's price with the same specs, right?
You are talking about Apple MAC's
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You are talking about Apple MAC's
I am sorry to tell you mate, but the Mac's ain't really that expensive. That is, compared to computers that got the same specs.
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weak? no. Laptops can be as powerful as Desktops.
Good example is Alienware.
you sure bro?, alienware fails most of the time because they stuffed everything into a little box and sell it according to the specs not to the actual performance. a few friends of mine own them, and they fail allot more than average laptops.
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IMO Laptops are far more superior to Desktops . They are smaller,cheaper and easy to carry on and use in any giving environment,
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IMO Laptops are far more superior to Desktops . They are smaller,cheaper and easy to carry on and use in any giving environment,
They sure are smaller, but they are not cheaper when it comes to what you get in terms of performance. Laptops probably wont ever have better performance than desktops simply because of the obvious fact that laptops are meant to be portable, and therefore they are a lot smaller.
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I'm going to agree with Ande here, it stands to reason that if you want the same thing in terms of specs/performance out of a smaller, more compact and lighter computer, not to mention the fact that it is portable, you're always going to pay more.
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Well I completely agree with Ande.I love my water-cooled desktop but I could not bring that from greece to Italy.I bought my first laptop a few months ago and I can say I am doing almost everything I used to do on my PC(Almost everything cause it's a macbook pro,but it still hacks great ;) ) and I am satisfied a lot!!!!!!
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I use both actualy..
laptop is handy for when I'm not home.
in the train here we have free wireless acces..
*so lately I love to take the train. (sniffing everybody with cain&able)
Last week I learned my girlfriend how to use cain to dns-spoof everybody on the train that where logged in. ;-) so when a passenger try to get to google or facebook
they ended up at lemonparty.com ;D
at home the laptop is used for scanning and bruteforcing.
a sidekick :D
and for security, do much with tor or ip spoofing and vpn ofcourse.
al my important juicy stuff are located on 1 external drive.
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I use both actualy..
laptop is handy for when I'm not home.
in the train here we have free wireless acces..
*so lately I love to take the train. (sniffing everybody with cain&able)
Last week I learned my girlfriend how to use cain to dns-spoof everybody on the train that where logged in. ;-) so when a passenger try to get to google or facebook
they ended up at lemonparty.com ;D
at home the laptop is used for scanning and bruteforcing.
a sidekick :D
and for security, do much with tor or ip spoofing and vpn ofcourse.
al my important juicy stuff are located on 1 external drive.
Really??, i tried to sniff in the train but it seems nobody uses the internet there, and its very very slow.
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Last weekend we went from Hilversum to Groningen..
About 30 different connections.
They have a max of 128 ip connections.
Problem is that promiscuous mode don't work, but that isn't a problem for Cain :D
so actualy sniffing their outgoing packages is difficult.., (But not impossible)
I have some ideas to do this with dns-spoofing.. still working on that..
and yes it's slowwwww... :D grinn..
train is expensive.. so I'm gonna test my findings at the mcdonalds or something :D
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I do prefer desktops most but when it comes to traveling i always have a laptop with me :)
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I do prefer desktops most but when it comes to traveling i always have a laptop with me :)
grinn.. I can imagine.. carrying a desktop is little hard to do ;D