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Community => General discussion => : Axon January 17, 2012, 10:35:19 PM

: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 17, 2012, 10:35:19 PM
Has anyone noticed it.

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

Thank god am not an American ;D
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ande January 17, 2012, 10:51:19 PM
Thank god America does not run(or at least they think) the world! Nowait, they do...

<Bitch and moan>
Fucking fat stupid Americans cant do anything right. Fucking flush the fat stupid politicians and get some fresh blood into the government. Should be 30-40 years maximum age limit. I'm sorry if this offends any Americans using this board, but if you are here and agree, you are not the Americans I am aiming at.
</Bitch and moan>

EDIT: And also, GO WIKIPEDIA!
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 17, 2012, 11:09:36 PM
Thank god America does not run(or at least they think) the world! Nowait, they do...

First of all, No They don't ? second , I think you are an American.


<Bitch and moan>
Fucking fat stupid Americans cant do anything right. Fucking flush the fat stupid politicians and get some fresh blood into the government. Should be 30-40 years maximum age limit. I'm sorry if this offends any Americans using this board, but if you are here and agree, you are not the Americans I am aiming at.
</Bitch and moan>

EDIT: And also, GO WIKIPEDIA!

If the SOPA act passes, that means the following.
  -No TOR
  -No Torrent
  -No online streaming websites

Technically speaking, the most repressive countries in the world will have more Internet freedom than the USA.  :P
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ande January 17, 2012, 11:34:30 PM
First of all, No They don't ? second , I think you are an American.

I am very far from American. And yes, they do think they do.



If the SOPA act passes, that means the following.
  -No TOR
  -No Torrent
  -No online streaming websites

Technically speaking, the most repressive countries in the world will have more Internet freedom than the USA.  :P

It will get a lot worse than that. Give it a few months and the government will shut down whatever they want for whatever reason which they will call "copyright".
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: gh0st January 17, 2012, 11:59:17 PM
cant wait I knew that something like this would happen lets see what will the people do
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 18, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
I am very far from American. And yes, they do think they do.

I don't want to turn this into a political debate but you entitled to your opinion. They might have military superiority but that doesn't mean they control the world, remember Somalia in the early 90's and Vietnam in the 70's

It will get a lot worse than that. Give it a few months and the government will shut down whatever they want for whatever reason which they will call "copyright".

Am I the only one who is happy to see this happening, once this act is active they will be transformed from AmeriCAN to AmeriCAN'T
lol  ;D
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ande January 18, 2012, 12:52:08 AM
Am I the only one who is happy to see this happening, once this act is active they will be transformed from AmeriCAN to AmeriCAN'T
lol  ;D

You do realize this wont only affect the US?
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 18, 2012, 12:59:52 AM
You do realize this wont only affect the US?

OK , What countries will it affect ?
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ande January 18, 2012, 01:09:59 AM
OK , What countries will it affect ?

This is what I mean with my insulting political post :P

If SOPA/PIPA goes active it will be fine for a while. But its like giving a gun to a criminal for decorating his home. He is going to use it for criminal shit sooner or later. Some goes for the US government. Once they have a tool they can manipulate into taking down any site they want, they will use it.

Perhaps the impact will be somewhat limited to the US, maybe it won't, but what makes you think the rest of the governments around the world wont follow in their footsteps?
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Allenownz January 18, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
Didnt we already have a poll on this, this isnt passing its all marketing schemes for companys o have to pay more for ads just like all the other proposed bills have been
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Wolf January 18, 2012, 02:54:19 AM
I'm an American, if i ever ran for an office my  slogan would be : "Because I hate politicians too!"


The problem with our government is that we keep electing the politicians, instead of real honest people. The problem with our laws is that the people making them adjust them in their favor. The problem with the country is we have forgotten that the government is by the people. Not a separate entity that is a ruling class. They are our representatives. Because they are fallible people, i don't trust them anymore than I trust the bagger at Walmart. I'm not handing that person my paycheck or letting them monitor me or tell me what to do. America is forgetting what it was about. Ande is right.
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: xzid January 18, 2012, 06:02:26 AM
I'm canadian, I don't think we have politicians.. Just a bunch of drunks wearing ties.

(http://mindprod.com/image/politics/harper12.jpg)
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: XP1 January 18, 2012, 12:05:52 PM
OK , What countries will it affect ?
H.R.3261 - Stop Online Piracy Act:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:95 (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:95)

S.968 - PROTECT IP Act of 2011:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/text?version=rs&nid=t0:rs:250 (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/text?version=rs&nid=t0:rs:250)

Read "(2) REASONABLE MEASURES" under "(c) Actions Based on Court Orders" in SEC. 102 of H.R.3261.
Read "(2) REASONABLE MEASURES" under "(d) Required Actions Based on Court Order" in SEC. 3 of S.968.

If you don't want to read "bill language", maybe you should read:
http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html (http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html)

..., which says that both bills would:
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Z3R0 January 18, 2012, 12:16:19 PM
Actually, even though I'm an American I completely agree with ande. Senators and Representatives should not be able to have indefinite terms, and they certainly should not have the full-paid retirement packages that they receive for only serving one term. There definitely should be a maximum age limit. Don't get me wrong, there are a few good politicians but they are like drops of water in a desert.

--on topic--
Thankfully, I'm not actually living in America right now, and if it does pass I really won't be affected by it until I move back. As for Wikipedia, I think this tactic would be more effective on a site that everyone uses...like google. I think then, Americans would get with, "the PG...that's program, and it's easy."
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ande January 18, 2012, 04:24:01 PM
This topic is now filled with love.

@m0rph, shutting down Google for a day is an excellent idea! I sure do hope Google is reading this :P
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Kulverstukas January 18, 2012, 04:37:36 PM
I'm not american. I live in a different continent, so IDGAF... :D
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: xzid January 18, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
NoScript.. try harder.
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Heretic January 18, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
Imagine the impact it will have on the markets. Stocks would plummet for companies like google, equities would be lulz and bonds wouldnt be so secure. I think that the government wants to just screw itself even more because frankly, they dont think trillions of dollars of debt is enough of a burden.

I'm American and man do I hate some of the shit that some of these people that think they are "politically educated" (because obviously Bush came into office from bull shitting through his ass and his extended connections and definitely not based on any education or any sense of leadership and Obama with his "Yes, we can" Bob the Builder slogan). Obama hasn't done even half of what he has "promised". This is not to say I am any better, but its either the people need to elect better representatives or we have a faulty system that filters out the good and keeps the bad to lead nations into constant recessions. Double recession back to back? Give it a break.

Back to connecting it to the topic, these politically leading figures are the result of both a faulty system leaving little to no choice in representation with competence. This leaves baddies in the system to make these decisions on bills like these and fuck over a nation with the opinions of just a few political bodies.
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 18, 2012, 10:26:25 PM
H.R.3261 - Stop Online Piracy Act:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:95 (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/text?version=ih&nid=t0:ih:95)

S.968 - PROTECT IP Act of 2011:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/text?version=rs&nid=t0:rs:250 (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/text?version=rs&nid=t0:rs:250)

Read "(2) REASONABLE MEASURES" under "(c) Actions Based on Court Orders" in SEC. 102 of H.R.3261.
Read "(2) REASONABLE MEASURES" under "(d) Required Actions Based on Court Order" in SEC. 3 of S.968.

If you don't want to read "bill language", maybe you should read:
http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html (http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html)

..., which says that both bills would:
  • Require U.S. sites and search engines to remove all links to the foreign site.
  • Require U.S. advertising services to no longer serve ads linking to the site, or display ads (e.g. AdSense) on the foreign site.
  • Require U.S. payment networks to cease any transactions between the foreign site and U.S. customers.
  • Require U.S. service providers to block customer access to the foreign site (DNS blacklisting).

This is going to affect world wide users but Americans will be effected to a higher degree. But does that mean we are going to use Chinese sites.  :P
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Kulverstukas January 18, 2012, 11:31:32 PM
demonoid is protesting too!
1. Click on WIKI link
2. Before wikipedia loads completely press ESC or abort loading
3. Profit????
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: xzid January 18, 2012, 11:46:13 PM
demonoid is protesting too!
1. Click on WIKI link
2. Before wikipedia loads completely press ESC or abort loading
3. Profit? ???

I already had noscript on wikipedia that blocked the banner, this morning I thought they pussied out.

The community has asked us to preserve emergency access options. The following methods will remain available to access content:

    Disabling JavaScript in your browser
    Using bookmarklets or other tools to unhide the content
    Visiting the mobile site at http://en.m.wikipedia.org/
    Accessing site content via the API
    Appending ?banner=none to the end of page URLs.

As noted above, the mobile site will be available, but will display a banner pointing people to ways to protest SOPA/PIPA.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ#Are_there_ways_to_circumvent_the_read_blackout.3F

thanks wikipedia! you fucking suck at protesting.
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: FuyuKitsune January 19, 2012, 02:33:44 PM
NoScript.. try harder.
Yeah, I thought that block page was pretty cheap. "Forbid Wikipedia.org", done
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Axon January 20, 2012, 03:33:35 AM
I think 2012 is going to be a bad year for Internet users and Internet freedom. it will usher the beginning of the " Cyber  dictatorship "
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: RWH-PF-GBS January 20, 2012, 05:19:30 AM
As i see it , it is only the beginning...
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: Kulverstukas January 20, 2012, 10:55:46 AM
The end is near...
: Re: Wikipedia will be shut down
: ovi_x January 21, 2012, 07:48:23 PM
that  is not  good ! even  for europe , we  will  loose a  metod  to share malwear to  usa
and  this  will create a  precedent , and the measure  will  come  in  to  europe  in a  few years
google  wouldn't  close  for  a  day  they  because  they  earn  from publicity :P

we will  soon  reach  china  , no  google ,  no youtube  and  no  other  shit