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Community => General discussion => : ande September 30, 2012, 01:40:35 AM

: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande September 30, 2012, 01:40:35 AM
Hello Evilzone.


Many of you already know this, but we (staff) have been working on a redesign and new features for Evilzone.


So it is only fair for you guys to comment on the current ideas. After all, you are the ones who have to see and use this.


Here is a image of the current concept design: http://evilzone.org/downloads/concept0006.PNG




Please leave a comment of what you think. Do criticize but be reasonable and come with ideas for improvement, it is much easier for us to fix things if you tell us what is wrong rather than just pointing out the fact that its wrong.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: DangerousLlama September 30, 2012, 02:35:42 AM
any reasons for the redesign? Just out of interest.

I think it looks really good, the banner is better than the one there with the equation we have at the moment.

you should put */Hacking and security/* in a cooler font :D
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande September 30, 2012, 02:48:09 AM
any reasons for the redesign? Just out of interest.

I think it looks really good, the banner is better than the one there with the equation we have at the moment.

you should put */Hacking and security/* in a cooler font :D

I am not particularly satisfied with the current look of this place. Thats why we want to redesign. It is also a part of a new system and new features.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: techb September 30, 2012, 03:05:57 AM
I am not particularly satisfied with the current look of this place. Thats why we want to redesign. It is also a part of a new system and new features.


Like programming challenges?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande September 30, 2012, 04:41:11 AM

Like programming challenges?

Like programming challenges.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: p_2001 September 30, 2012, 06:05:27 AM
Seems lame Ande. Now, don't take offence but the page looks like it is for some office website.
While the first impression is good it will get old Very quickly.
This current one is bright black, it doesn't get old.

Now, the irc tab. Will it be just address or is it a script .....?

The logo is good but the hacking and security must come under it not to it's right... Seems just off...

Anyhow this was me giving my opinion please do not take offence.. I know you guys must've worked hard for it.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: s3my0n September 30, 2012, 08:22:19 AM
Too bright, make it darker :P

What will the forum theme look like?
Also too plain, there's not enough text, pics, etc around the main area.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Ullen September 30, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
Its ok but thought i would be better than current deign. I love the current design
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax September 30, 2012, 10:46:36 AM
how about a bar small bar at the bottom like securityoverride has?
there you could have a quake line terminal poping up with irc

under the menu is the content. in my oppinion the content souldent be the same color

is the menu a js drop down or just links?

some more grapics in the top would be nice, some suttle abstract background maby?

just my 2cents
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: namespace7 September 30, 2012, 11:26:35 AM
ande, can you please upload the image in some different way?
I try to open it in the browser or download it, but it does not let me. A few kb get downloaded and it stops and keeps loading forever. All other websites are working perfectly for me, so I don't think it is my connection, and I tried it in 3 different browsers.

Or in fact can anyone else who has the pic upload it on some pic hosting site and send me a PM with a link?

I have no idea why the picture appears corrupt to me. Tried it on two OS'es, 3 browers. Might be corrupt router firewall config files or something.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Kulverstukas September 30, 2012, 11:27:47 AM
Why don't we keep the colors like it is now? the logo is very nice :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: th3g00n September 30, 2012, 12:58:31 PM
I try to open it in the browser or download it, but it does not let me.
Use wget.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Zesh September 30, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
Current design is better. I personally think its too bright, maybe using the current themes colour would be better. Any chance of getting to see some other screenshots, rather hard to get a feel for the new site with only a preview of the first page.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: PublicEnemy September 30, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
Yes, it is way too bright. Dark gray, ugh... that stings in my eyes!
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: TRAiN3R September 30, 2012, 07:29:33 PM
I think it looks better like this:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/10hiwsj.png)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Axon September 30, 2012, 07:42:39 PM
Very nice, I like it :) and the one provided by TRAiN3R is also nice
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: TRAiN3R September 30, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
the one provided by TRAiN3R is also nice

I take no credit for it  :P
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande September 30, 2012, 08:20:39 PM
I think it looks better like this:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/10hiwsj.png)

I dont know where you got that from :P Its not supposed to be public just yet, but oh well. Its one of the earlier design ideas.

I will start a new topic related to this one: Evilzone design competition (http://evilzone.org/general-discussion/evilzone-design-competition/new/).
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Polyphony September 30, 2012, 08:51:20 PM
I like the new concept, everyone else seems to not like the grey body but I don't mind.  I wouldn't have used that other design TRAiN3R showed lol it would get old FAST xD I don't really like the bar at the bottom of SecurityOverride either but it's whatever, if I wanted to navigate the site with a terminal though, I would have used links or something lol
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax September 30, 2012, 10:40:14 PM
i liked the design in op

maby http://s17.postimage.org/ee1bivm6n/555.png (http://s17.postimage.org/ee1bivm6n/555.png)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande September 30, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
i liked the design in op

maby http://s17.postimage.org/ee1bivm6n/555.png (http://s17.postimage.org/ee1bivm6n/555.png)

Dosent look too bad actually. Ill keep it in mind. Might work on this tonight.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 01, 2012, 07:39:52 AM
Been working on the idea for a few hours today/night.

A bit of a different direction ofrom the original one: http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png (http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: p_2001 October 01, 2012, 08:02:54 AM
Been working on the idea for a few hours today/night.

A bit of a different direction ofrom the original one: http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png (http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png)

Way batter.. Yet the logo and motto do not go well together... Here is an idea if you like it...

How about you wrote hacking at the logo top and security at bottom and the right and left arms of logo can have " AND " written?

Just a suggestion..


colour is better.. Though it lacks green.. What is a hacking website without a touch of green? Especially when GREEN and EVIL go together?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Kulverstukas October 01, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
A bit of a different direction ofrom the original one: http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png (http://i49.tinypic.com/vovsd5.png)
Damn this looks so much nicer. I love it, really.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Silentz October 01, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
Looks very nice mate. It's got a Google like feel to it. Very clean and direct. No nonsense.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 01, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
Thanks guys, but I am not 100% satesfied with it just yet. So comments for improvements are very much welcome.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 01, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
tryed out gimp animations and came up with this logo
http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif
(http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif)
its on repeat now but thougt it would maby be better only looping once

and the top of the page maby something like this?
http://i45.tinypic.com/rsvats.png
(http://i45.tinypic.com/rsvats.png)


: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: DangerousLlama October 01, 2012, 07:08:31 PM

(http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif)



Awesome! Black and green seem to be the hacker colours. Like the matrix or something. I think that's the colour scheme the really old comps used too. Green text on black BG.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: namespace7 October 01, 2012, 09:24:11 PM
tryed out gimp animations and came up with this logo
http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif (http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/wwae6c.gif)
its on repeat now but thougt it would maby be better only looping once

and the top of the page maby something like this?
http://i45.tinypic.com/rsvats.png (http://i45.tinypic.com/rsvats.png)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/rsvats.png)

The animation is nice, but I think that if we use it, it should loop only once after a page load and should stop at a full gray logo. The green ez middle is too eye catching when everything else is gray.

Very nice though. +1 for the effort mate.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 01, 2012, 10:40:07 PM
I dont think we will be doing any animations, they are always of poor quality and are generally just annoying. But that other style of yours was interesting. I did some work on that. Here is the results:

http://i46.tinypic.com/fuhwj.png
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: lucid October 01, 2012, 10:51:32 PM
That one ^ is the best so far. I know not everyone else likes it but I like the idea of /* something in between the comments */

I also don't think the green is necessary. Sure, green and black looks cool but it's kind of.....skiddyish?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: namespace7 October 01, 2012, 10:55:23 PM
No. Green is definitely not skiddish. Green is just a color. Colors are abstract.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 01, 2012, 11:25:46 PM

(http://i46.tinypic.com/fuhwj.png) (http://i46.tinypic.com/fuhwj.png)
i really liked that one :)
insted of the hash like text under the menu maybe some wise quote? (maby even one that changes once a day :P)
i would have preffered some more colors like green but thats just me.
some kind of background maybe or atleast some image
and i have to agree that we sould have the "/* Hacking and Security */" with the logo

good work :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Daemon October 02, 2012, 08:48:16 AM
Digging that flashing logo....though I agree it shouldn't be going all the time because it will trip me out and cause some sort of distraction when im trying to read, like my IRC is flashing right now and i cant see anything but that....dammit >.<

@ande, I like the look with the darker colors. It fits my eyes very well :)
though maybe instead of having stats at the bottom like we do now, we could some sort of bar on the side that has the new posts etc. with the option for each user to have it on/off depending on their tastes. Maybe do it in green, same color as that flashing logo. Have it look kind of like the rainmaker skin for jarvis or w/e. http://creativx.net/forums/attachments/rainmeter/25663d1294218382-ironman-jarvis-rainmeter-skin-ironman.jpg
see how its very simple, just a dot then a drop down sorta menu? something along those lines, very clean and a darker green. have it structured like:
o----posts
   ---new
   ---most active      //these are the dropdowns if clicked.
o----stats
o----online users

and each one can be clicked on for an expanded menu. then a prominent time piece would be nice on the opposite side, something that shows the forum time and what time zone that is so I don't have to keep looking it up...also with an on/off feature.

 Also, i didn't see a search function in that picture? Please tell me that will still be included... :P

Just my thoughts, do with it as you will. I know it's a lot of work to redo this all, so only do these if you have time/energy. Thanks for doing all this ande + satan911 (assuming your helping) :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Ullen October 02, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
I think it looks better like this:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/10hiwsj.png)


That's awesome. Love the concept
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: pl0tuS October 02, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
Please, add the EZ equation somewhere. It's simply awesome. And one does not simply remove awesome things from awesomeness. That equation makes EZ unipue. Maybe you can add it above that /* line with transperancy or something.   and I hate it that I'm watching all these pics in 240x320 phone. :(
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: TRAiN3R October 03, 2012, 12:42:20 AM
I dont know where you got that from :P Its not supposed to be public just yet, but oh well. Its one of the earlier design ideas.

I will start a new topic related to this one: Evilzone design competition (http://evilzone.org/general-discussion/evilzone-design-competition/new/).
From you silly ;)
We were hoping to finish loads of things this summer, including various security systems, server management stuff and the Alpha project (for those who know what that is). But none of these have been finished by lack of time and money.

Just put 2 and 2 together ;)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 07, 2012, 07:41:56 AM
Here are a few more ideas:

http://i48.tinypic.com/25ps87n.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/28s3d4m.jpg
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Kulverstukas October 07, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Here are a few more ideas:

http://i48.tinypic.com/25ps87n.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/28s3d4m.jpg


Me gusta the second one.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: namespace7 October 07, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
Definitely the second one. The first one looks like a default template of some free blog provider.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 07, 2012, 12:05:17 PM
hmm
I like the blue color, the login bar at the top and the EvilZone text from the second one
the rest of the layout feels old. seen it around the internet 100 times, get a feeling from a blog or something

the only thing i like from the second one is the /* HACKING AND SECURITY */ text that dossent allready exist on in my opinion the best so far the one you posted before (http://i46.tinypic.com/fuhwj.png)

so maybe have to one you posted before (http://i46.tinypic.com/fuhwj.png) add the color and evilzone text from the second and the /* */ from the first

something like
(http://s10.postimage.org/61y9cxo39/ggg.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/61y9cxo39/)

feels like somethings missing
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Ullen October 07, 2012, 03:20:01 PM

Here are a few more ideas:


http://i48.tinypic.com/25ps87n.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/28s3d4m.jpg

I like the first one.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Uriah October 07, 2012, 11:37:12 PM
I agree with Relax, but I'm not quite so sure about the blue color...Perhaps a darker shade?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 08, 2012, 06:14:35 AM
Tonight's crazy attempts:
http://i49.tinypic.com/281uhhh.png (http://i49.tinypic.com/281uhhh.png)
http://i46.tinypic.com/v2s7id.png (http://i46.tinypic.com/v2s7id.png)
http://i47.tinypic.com/mssut.png (http://i47.tinypic.com/mssut.png)


EDIT:
Someone wanted to see a tad darker blue edition of the first one: http://i45.tinypic.com/avjww6.png (http://i45.tinypic.com/avjww6.png)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Uriah October 08, 2012, 07:34:09 AM
The last pic seems just about right, but for some reason I feel like its missing a slight touch of something....
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 08, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
noticed that you dont have and text at the top with the loggo...
did uyou forget or was it consciously? ether way good job :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 13, 2012, 08:32:59 AM
Alright. More work has been done.

Unless an unusual amount of people complain about this and we do not get any better submissions for the competition within a few weeks. We are running with this design:

Huge:
http://i48.tinypic.com/9fs08l.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/9fs08l.png)

HD:
http://i45.tinypic.com/29ary8j.png (http://i45.tinypic.com/29ary8j.png)

Small:
http://i47.tinypic.com/fbccc9.png (http://i47.tinypic.com/fbccc9.png)




EDIT: The image is now translated to HTML btw. So the images above are actual HTML design.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Uriah October 13, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
I like it. Nice work.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: pllaybuoy October 13, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
Boring *yawn*
The current one is far better than that
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 13, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
Boring *yawn*
The current one is far better than that

wtf are you taking about?
what do you want it to look like haven't seen any contributions from you

@ande it looks great really just the terminal color needs a change
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: techb October 13, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
I like them all. But sticking with colors similar to what we have now should be default. Is there a way to change the color based on our preffs?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Daemon October 13, 2012, 04:47:44 PM
I like them all. But sticking with colors similar to what we have now should be default. Is there a way to change the color based on our preffs?

That's actually a really good idea, being able to change that blue depending on personal preference would be nice since I still don't feel like the blue fits hahaha

Other than our color differences, I love it ande :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: fox October 14, 2012, 05:50:16 AM
I've asked ande to allow for customization by just uploading same theme different colours and allowing different choices. Was told no...

Anyways, theme could use improvements to the colour and the logo, You could have it say EVILZONE then that EZ logo but having just that logo looks out of place(but you have to move other things as well..). The light gray/white or w.e colour it is is out of place as well. Just a few things I'd critique as I told you. But thats also my oppinion seems people enjoy it.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Stackprotector October 14, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
Fuck yes
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: relax October 14, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
well you could add the feature to modify your own css or just use a addon that allows you to
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Stackprotector October 14, 2012, 05:55:32 PM
well you could add the feature to modify your own css or just use a addon that allows you to
No, that will cause a major leak for possible XSS and CSRF
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ca0s October 14, 2012, 06:26:51 PM
No, that will cause a major leak for possible XSS and CSRF
This. As I learnt from another website, it is a pain in the ass doing that in a safe way.
However, you could make some things like background or font color configurable.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: silenthunder October 14, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
I like pretty much all of the different designs, but I'd like to be able to change to color scheme to my own preference. There's no way to do that?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Stackprotector October 14, 2012, 08:21:56 PM
I like pretty much all of the different designs, but I'd like to be able to change to color scheme to my own preference. There's no way to do that?
That may be possible :D
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Live Wire October 14, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Hear me out guys: old skool BBS.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 15, 2012, 12:39:38 AM
Hear me out guys: old skool BBS.

Is old and unpractical, tho slightly cool for a limited audience.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Axon October 15, 2012, 01:16:44 AM
5 pages of suggestions and discussions, we want results. When we will see the new design? :)
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 15, 2012, 01:27:06 AM
5 pages of suggestions and discussions, we want results. When we will see the new design? :)

Not for a long time, this is not design for a SMF theme or something like that. This is the design of the new (from-scratch developed by EZ staff), which wont be done for a while.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: techb October 15, 2012, 02:10:25 AM
This. As I learnt from another website, it is a pain in the ass doing that in a safe way.
However, you could make some things like background or font color configurable.


Yes. Color is the only thing I care about. Adjusting to what doesn't hurt my eyes. Images and layouts and all are not that important to me, the data/knowledge in the site are important though. As long as we have quality posts/members/stuff I really can care less about the ascetics.


May be a stupid question, but will all threads and posts be migrated over to the new site? On my next day off, I'm going to get into PHP to maybe help with dev. If PHP is what is being used.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 15, 2012, 02:40:31 AM

Bla bla bla.

May be a stupid question, but will all threads and posts be migrated over to the new site? On my next day off, I'm going to get into PHP to maybe help with dev. If PHP is what is being used.

Users and posts will be migrated. PHP is the obvious choice here, perhaps you could help out. But I suggest you learn a bit first hehe.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: iTpHo3NiX October 15, 2012, 03:10:24 AM
i like alpha but its not like ima be there
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: techb October 15, 2012, 04:07:56 AM
Users and posts will be migrated. PHP is the obvious choice here, perhaps you could help out. But I suggest you learn a bit first hehe.

I have looked into PHP before, but work ATM has me bogged down. PHP doesn't seem a whole lot different than what I'm used to, just haven't done excessive amounts of web dev. We shall see how it unfolds.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 15, 2012, 05:00:29 AM
i like alpha but its not like ima be there

Hi there, long time no see(write?). Good to see you again. Decided to come back?
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: iTpHo3NiX October 15, 2012, 05:27:54 AM
Hi there, long time no see(write?). Good to see you again. Decided to come back?

No just stopped by to talk to techb
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: ande October 15, 2012, 06:04:36 AM
No just stopped by to talk to techb

:(

Oh well, you are always welcome here.
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: Daemon October 15, 2012, 06:18:47 AM
No just stopped by to talk to techb

 >:(

Making the rest of us feel slighted...well at least we know it's the actual skidiot.h this way :P
: Re: Evilzone Design Concept
: F1.z3ro October 20, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
Why not offer a couple of user selected color themes, since others seems to prefer this color over that?  Other sites do it, shouldn't be too difficult.