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: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 01:13:28 AM
Hello I need to bleach ink off a document printed on a standard inkjet printer, I did quite a bit of research and I found few recipes on how to do it, I need help of someone who knows chemistry well on the safest way to do this efficiently and what printer to use afterwards.

a ) use bleach+Acetone+peroxide bath which is 20-30 minute process
b ) use Thiourea dioxide (Formamidine sulfinic acid)
c ) use Lye


If anyone knows of a good and efficient way of doing this please let me know
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: techb February 11, 2013, 01:44:18 AM
Isn't this what Gimp and PhotoShop is for?
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 01:46:37 AM
Not that easy, paper has a paper raised seal on it so it has to be bleached and reprinted.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: techb February 11, 2013, 02:28:50 AM
Widdle a stamp and press it yourself. Or buy one, can even make custom ones.

http://www.notaryseal.com/level3.cfm/Search/CatSearch/LevelOne/Notary%20Products/LevelTwo/Notary%20Seals/?gclid=CJ6V3ZGNrbUCFU-mPAodjhMAtA
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 03:04:15 AM
hmm thanks, ill look into this
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: rasenove February 11, 2013, 03:11:45 AM
Scan the paper, use photoshops content aware tools like spot healing tool to remove the ink, and print it again.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: proxx February 11, 2013, 04:40:07 AM
Hello I need to bleach ink off a document printed on a standard inkjet printer, I did quite a bit of research and I found few recipes on how to do it, I need help of someone who knows chemistry well on the safest way to do this efficiently and what printer to use afterwards.

a ) use bleach+Acetone+peroxide bath which is 20-30 minute process
b ) use Thiourea dioxide (Formamidine sulfinic acid)
c ) use Lye


If anyone knows of a good and efficient way of doing this please let me know

Are you trying to kill yourself?
Option a will relsult in a highly dangerous unstable explosive.
DONT DO THAT AND IM FUCKING SERIOUS!

Option c will weaken/destroy paper, turn it into a gelly mess.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: lucid February 11, 2013, 05:33:33 AM
C will also fuck you up if you get it on your skin.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
I've got chemical proof gloves and mask
option a will form a chloroform gas  I believe
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: proxx February 11, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
Did you read my post ?
If there happens to be any catalyzing agent present your bound to form triacetoneperoxide.
Fuck I cant believe I have to repeat this.
Its REALLY FUCKING DANGEROUS.

Sigh , if this substance or its more unstable form diacetoneperoxide crystalizes out on the paper it takes only a minor distrubance to detonate.
Im not gonna explain why I know these things, just trust me.

A lot of retarded kids blew their hands off.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 07:54:29 PM
What if I do it with bleach+Acetone first rinse with water, and then use peroxide if it's still not white enough?
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: proxx February 11, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
Bleach will react in a slightly similar fashion as hydrogen peroxide.
However in reality there is probably not much that can go wrong.
You dont need the acetone in the first place, I also dont understand why you thought you would.
Either bleach or hydrogen peroxide will do the job.
Even sodiumpercarbonate will do the job.
Bleach is industrially used for bleaching paper.
You could add some sodiumhydroxide to increase the formation of singlet oxygen O1.
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: Zokobat February 11, 2013, 09:13:18 PM
Alright thanks, do you know what type of bleach would be best for such experiment? Just regular or some type of industrial bleach?
: Re: Looking for a way to bleach paper
: proxx February 11, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Regular bleach would work fine, might not be fast though.

However tablets are sold in many countries all over the world.
Most often as a swimming pool chemical.
Iirc its sodiumhypochlorite, that way you can determine the concentration yourself.
Trial and error.