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Looking for a gateway
« on: May 17, 2013, 05:46:53 am »
I'm in the market for a gateway for my house. Currently we have ethernet only and I don't want to rent a modem from Comcast. So I'm looking for a router-modem combo. The only things that matter is that it's cheap and supports port forwarding.

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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 06:09:13 am »
-Old shit computer with linux and a cheap 1000mbit switch.

-router that can go behind it, than youll have something for future situations.
(I had good experience with D-link routers or something that can run openwrt or tomato.)

Why would you need another modem ?
You can just use a switch as long as you have a DHCP server.
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 06:36:31 am »
Sorry proxx :) Lucid.. never ever buy a dlink device. Its the greatest crap I have ever seen in my complete networking career.. lol. Cheap and also good?.. If you have an old PC you can follow what proxx suggested. If you don't have one go for a linksys device. They are owned by cisco and the products are quiet good but a bit more expensive than the dlink crap.. lol.

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start?utm_source=Lifehacker+Newsletter&utm_campaign=b27e854d4c-UA-142218-1&utm_medium=email#linksys
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 07:56:23 am »
Thanks for the link RBA. I don't have an old shit computer or a switch but if I did I would do that too. I'll do some research.
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 08:39:37 am »
Anyone has some piece of scrap lying around or knows how to get it right :)
Its based on the assumption that you like networking configuration and control.
You could run your own DHCP , proxy and DNS server from that box.
Switches cost next to nothing.
Lol after a couple years I realized that I should have bought different hardware years ago, silly me.

Lol about the dlink , I know its cheap crap however there are certain models that work really well.
If course cisco is the way to go.
Although I must say that I also had some nightmarish experience with linksys.
We all know the strange cases where DMZ just doesnt work, portforwarding magic that always fails :P
I know lucid is a linux guy and im pretty sure hes gonna love doing the stuff himself.
But I'd also vote for some proper cisco router they are expensive however.
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 08:01:59 pm »
I admit that would be fun. The thing is that, well, actually my gf want's to get wireless in the next few days. So I was just going to get a gateway quickly. Then after that I could spend the time setting up my own server.

Does anyone have a specific recommendation on a good linksys model to purchase?
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 11:12:26 pm »
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 06:02:39 am »
Voice Gateway?
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 10:26:35 am »
Whatever you buy, be sure to check it's compatibility with dd-wrt, open-wrt, tomato, etc... So that when you stop using it, you can still play around with it. I've made the mistake of buying gateways that won't support custom firmware and now their only function is dust collectors.

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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 05:58:22 am »
Maybe the Linksys E3200 High-Performance Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless-N Router

Wait a second is that a router/modem? That looks like just a router..


EDIT: How about this:

http://salestores.com/linksyswrt54.html?gclid=COLF-6X0qLcCFSdgMgodJ34AVA

If I'm not mistaken, that serves as a router AND a modem. See, currently I'm renting a modem from comcast. It's 7 dollars a month and it is just a modem so we have no wifi. What I want to do is get a combo device so that I don't have to rent out there shitty little modem, and I can get wifi.

So, how does that look?
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 07:27:11 am »
With any ISP your going to be paying a rental fee whether you use their shit or not. I work for a DSL provider and know other who work for comcast, and yet others that work for hughesnet and other ISPs. No matter what you do or what you try, your always going to pay that rental fee. I would say keep the shitty modem they give you since your always going to be paying for it, then use your own routing device.

The plus side is, since your paying for this shitty modem monthly, do with it what you will. I have pulled apart my modems from my ISP and found the headers to flash my own firmware. Hell, one time I had everything soldered into the headers then called my ISP, forced them to push a firmware update, then had a dump of the full update and all. With a binwalk, I had access to everything I ever needed.

Moral of the story, they will charge you for the modem/router whether you use it or not. Might not show up on your bill, but in the end your still paying for the shit.
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 08:31:11 pm »
Ok, well the dude told me I could get a gateway and I wouldn't have to use their modem so therefore I wouldn't have to pay for it. For some dumb reason I'm having a really hard time even finding something that I am confident is a combo device. Everything I find it either says router or modem, some say gateway but then some say gateway and router, so I'm not sure if the ones that just say gateway are what I'm looking for or not.

How about that one I posted above?
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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 09:27:16 am »
Im not familiar with that ISP and whatever strange policy they apply.
However there are some basic assumption that can be done.

You need a device so you can hook up multiple computers.
You need a wireless AP.
You have an ethernet port on the modem.

Basically you can just buy any router or switch that has a wireless module.
I would stronly advice you to buy something universal.
For example this device ; E1000 linksys or the E2000 linksys

Forget all the crap they talk about, just use their modem hook it up with your router.
When you move or switch providers or whatever you can just use the same device.
As already stated a couple times its good to look for something that can run openwrt or tomato.

The device in one of the last posts is some weird voip oriented thing that you dont need really.
Forget the word gateway, I think thats causing confusion.
Your router will be your gateway.

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Re: Looking for a gateway
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 07:04:11 pm »
Ok yeah I think there was a little confusion with the word gateway. I've decided I'm just going to look for my own modem AND get my own router. That way I don't have to deal with there shitty modem.
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