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Offline syionide

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Web tracking?
« on: November 10, 2013, 02:49:02 am »
Hey guys, I'm reaching out for some assistance to you smart people. I am helping out a new organization that is tracking people that exploit kids for sex trafficking.

What are some of the best ways you can think of to track these people, find them and then turn them over to the police or local law enforcement.  ?

I am a software engineer at a computer forensic company, so technical responses are welcomed and if you feel strongly about this as well. contact me and maybe we can build something worthwhile.

The only real thing I care about is stopping people exploiting these kids. It's a 32 billion dollar industry that's the fastest growing underground criminal element. As a father I want to stop this. But I do care about these kids that deserve a chance.

Is this the right place for me to go to ask this? or can you help direct me to a better place?

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Very Respectfully,
Syionide
« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 03:18:53 pm by syionide »

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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 08:51:14 am »
Interesting... well the only way I can think of is to use the web scanner for finding deep web sites with a tool that has been posted here: http://evilzone.org/scripting-languages/%27hidden%27-website-finder/

But not being on anyone's side, do you really think you will be able to change anything? I really don't think so... it's like hunting pedos. You take down 1, 2 more take it's place.
So why bother doing this, other than personal vendetta. I'd be glad to hear your reasoning.

Also you most likely stir up some serious shit saying "religious cults over stupid views". You'll see...
« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 08:51:59 am by Kulverstukas »

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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 03:18:23 pm »
Awesome,  thank you for the post and thank you for the link.

We are ex military, we have developed a jump team and will dismantle the rings as we find them. We have done this, it leads to other studios and we move from there, working with local law enforcement.

Here's some of our work.

http://www.laprensa.hn/csp/mediapool/sites/LaPrensa/Sucesos/Policiales/story.csp?cid=365880&sid=951&fid=98

We are gaining momentum in the movement to stopping this modern day slavery and will be airing on national television to raise the awareness of this. It's not quite the individual pedo's we look for, its the producers , or the guy with a house full of 12-16yr kids waiting to be sold, etc.

<edited out the comments from original post> :) thanks for that!

Staff note: please don't double post, kk?
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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 05:21:32 pm »
Well... all I can say is good luck :P
Mention evilzone over that national TV of yours as supporters of the "Operation: Pedo hunt" :D

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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 09:18:05 pm »
I don't want to be a skeptic, but there are people who learn tracking techniques not to help capture pedophiles. Instead, they use this skills to blackmail pedos to give them money. I remember reading something like this is some forums in the past and they have a term for it, but I can't remember it.

What they do is simple, they act as an underage child and they upload a cam show of little girls and display is if they are the ones doing it, and then they request the older male to expose himself. After that they pretend they are cooperating with LEA and they demand money, or they will hand the videos to the FBI or any other LEA. Eventually and usually the blackmailed individual pays the required money thinking this will make him avoid at least 10 years in prison.

The point here is that we don't know for sure your real intentions, and what makes me more suspicious is that your position in what you've claimed a forensic company, doesn't indicate you are related to tracking pedophiles, judging from the fact that this job is mainly intended for people who are specialized in computer forensics, not software engineering. In addition, you should be knowledgeable in digging up information since your major is related to softwares and computers in general, yet you choose an underground forum for to ask for assistance. There is something fishy about you.
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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 09:25:25 pm »
derpaherp OP is a blackmailer?

@OP:

« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 09:25:39 pm by Kulverstukas »

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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 12:35:23 am »
I don't want to be a skeptic, but there are people who learn tracking techniques not to help capture pedophiles. Instead, they use this skills to blackmail pedos to give them money. I remember reading something like this is some forums in the past and they have a term for it, but I can't remember it.

What they do is simple, they act as an underage child and they upload a cam show of little girls and display is if they are the ones doing it, and then they request the older male to expose himself. After that they pretend they are cooperating with LEA and they demand money, or they will hand the videos to the FBI or any other LEA. Eventually and usually the blackmailed individual pays the required money thinking this will make him avoid at least 10 years in prison.

The point here is that we don't know for sure your real intentions, and what makes me more suspicious is that your position in what you've claimed a forensic company, doesn't indicate you are related to tracking pedophiles, judging from the fact that this job is mainly intended for people who are specialized in computer forensics, not software engineering. In addition, you should be knowledgeable in digging up information since your major is related to softwares and computers in general, yet you choose an underground forum for to ask for assistance. There is something fishy about you.

I agree with you. I'm not sure if this guy is actually extorting or blackmailing people but it sure is skeptical. He has a jump team in place? This sounds like vigilante justice and lots of the time that doesn't end well. Anyhow, best of luck mate. -GD

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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 01:04:06 am »
I mean, whether you have good intentions or not.  If you're not a LEA you probably don't have the resources.  ICE for instance has the resources and they typically infiltrate the rings until they can figure out the major players and take down the network from the top.  It's very resource intensive but the end result is that if you put enough fear into people that they will go to jail for what they're doing and that the likelihood of that outweighs the gains, then people will stop doing it.  That's why these things typically take years and why only major agencies can do it.  It's really sad this stuff but many people will do practically anything for enough money.

@OP Your intentions may be good but just taking down one cell isn't going to do much.  You have to cut it off at the head.  That's why these take years and only agencies such as US' ICE can do it effectively.  I wish you luck but just make sure you don't conflict with your local/federal LEA because their operations probably have been in place for years and if you fuck them up, they won't be happy.
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Re: Web tracking?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 04:16:43 pm »
I am a software engineer at a computer forensic company, so technical responses are welcomed and if you feel strongly about this as well. contact me and maybe we can build something worthwhile.
I find it intereting that--if you are telling the truth--you are a software engineer at a computer forensics company working with local law enforcement and ex-military, and from the way you talk it sounds like you are claiming to know what you are doing, yet you need to come to some hacking forum asking for help in tracking sex traffickers...
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