fedora 20 newb looking for help :)

[JrHell]

Hey,


So after a long struggle and lots of Google searches i managed to install fedora 20 on my laptop, I am completely and utterly new to Linux, I have tried goggling my issue but I don't even know how to word it so hopefully someone here can help;


when installing third party software onto Linux (i.e.. tor) after extracting i am given just the non-extracted files, I have read the read me, but no luck, how do I install software like this? its happened on quite a few pieces of software so im thinking I have to do something in the terminal?

[vezzy]

I'm not sure if I understand your question, but I think you're referring to how to compile software packages from source?

If so, the standard for modern Unix-like operating systems these days is the GNU build system, which is typically executed from the end user perspective as "./configure; make; make install".

Yes, you type these commands from a terminal emulator, as that is where you access the raw shell.

Next time be sure to RTFM, because this is absolute fundamental stuff. Doesn't Fedora have a handbook or something? It certainly has to have documentation.

[JrHell]

yes my wording is bad hence why Google searches have been a fail! lol, I am completely new to programming as well so I have no clue what im doing really, but your answer has helped, I looked up compiling and I think im on the right track now to learning what on earth I should be doing lol!, so thank you.

[JrHell]

I read the manual none of the command line prompts seem to do anything, I'm either told access denied or that it's installed successfully but on further inspection it's no where to be found, hence why I'm doing google searches and asking you guys.

[Phage]

Didn't connection help you out on IRC yesterday?

[proxx]

Just start here;
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_management_system

[JrHell]

Didn't connection help you out on IRC yesterday?

yes he did, but i was still encountering the same issue, and I just gave up for the night after that

thanks proxx ill have a look, im thinking now if this doesnt work then ima reinstall cos im starting to think its glitching or something :S every guide i read seems to say the same thing, and its not working, or atleast not on a GUI level anyways.

[proxx]

yes he did, but i was still encountering the same issue, and I just gave up for the night after that

thanks proxx ill have a look, im thinking now if this doesnt work then ima reinstall cos im starting to think its glitching or something :S every guide i read seems to say the same thing, and its not working, or atleast not on a GUI level anyways.

No you are just doing it wrong, not a big deal but still.
You should really find some linux introduction stuff to read.
It is either not working coz you fuckup the syntax or you don't use the right privs.

In fact if you would post the actual things you try to hammer into the terminal I/we would probably catch the mistake right away.

[JrHell]

ok well after extracting the file the first thing I done was:

sudo yum install tor

then y to complete.

cd tor-browser_en-US

./configure

to which i get a permission error
so then i tried ./start-tor-browser
Wrong architecture? 32-bit vs. 64-bit.

so yes? I installed both 32 bit and 64 bit after that error but nothing changed, same error

[proxx]

ok well after extracting the file the first thing I done was:

sudo yum install tor

then y to complete.

cd tor-browser_en-US

./configure

to which i get a permission error
so then i tried ./start-tor-browser
Wrong architecture? 32-bit vs. 64-bit.

so yes? I installed both 32 bit and 64 bit after that error but nothing changed, same error

You are clearly doing it wrong.
Lets get this straight.
Since manual/scripted compilation can be a pain and hard to manage they invented something called a 'package management system'.
Many distro's have their own interpretation and implementation.
Fedora amongst sisters uses yum.

You either install things (binaries) through yum or if you need really specific compilation settings or if it is not in the repo's you would do it the manual way.

Basically what you are doing is both, which is not gonna work and if you are not careful is gonna mess up a lot of shit that can be difficult to fix for a linux newbie.

Just use yum, hell try a GUI version and forget about the terminal for now.
http://www.muktware.com/2012/06/installing-yumex-in-fedora-17-taming-the-beast/2566
Find a guide on how to use it, run it with elevated privs, either sudo or as SU.

'yum install tor'
should do the trick for installing tor.

As for the browser bundle, try to find out if there are pre-built packages , I'm pretty sure there are.
https://jamielinux.com/articles/2013/01/tor-and-tor-browser-repository-on-fedora/