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DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« on: May 26, 2014, 08:00:46 pm »
Hey guys, didn't really know how to title this post, but I guess its fine.

http://condenastl3cdn.cust.footprint.net/videos/537e2f6d69702d0235000000/low.webm

Link above represents a video of a very early stage of Plan X (Only generalised idea of how it will work)- an Oculus Rift-like device which apparentely will allow cyber war to become more like a game, rather than countless command insertion. Speaking short, from an article that I've read about it (Which isnt included because it isnt in English, but if you Google it you'll probably find it) it looks like DARPA is working on a device which will allow hacker to get inside a virtualized world in which instead of inserting commands, he/she will use a controller pad in order to grab information flowing by. Whatever or however you want to understand it. Project is in very early stage and apparentely it may just be ready to use in 2017.
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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 08:34:24 pm »
Eventhough it looks really cool and shit I dont really see how this will beat the cli but than again I might be thinking in the box too much.
Humans are graphical oriented , take for example a graph, we tend to consume such information a hell of a lot faster than just raw data.
Such attempts have been made earlier , there was this metasploit shooter like thingy, which failed hard but still.
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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 01:22:36 am »
Eventhough it looks really cool and shit I dont really see how this will beat the cli but than again I might be thinking in the box too much.
Humans are graphical oriented , take for example a graph, we tend to consume such information a hell of a lot faster than just raw data.
Such attempts have been made earlier , there was this metasploit shooter like thingy, which failed hard but still.

Youre probably right when it comes to nowadays, but i dont think it will fail at all, I mean it may not be usable for the next two decades or so but at the end of the day they will probably keep working on it until it will have some sort of use, but then again Im sure theres a lot of technology used that we dont know about yet, which may be commercialized at some point...

Looking altogether on what we are capable of so far, the technology that we use nowadays at home is not exactly the fullest, as usual money plays a role here :P

Offtopic now: Why whenever recently I try to post something on forum it says that even though were using https, it may not be fully secured and may be passed on to the third parties?

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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 07:40:12 am »
Youre probably right when it comes to nowadays, but i dont think it will fail at all, I mean it may not be usable for the next two decades or so but at the end of the day they will probably keep working on it until it will have some sort of use, but then again Im sure theres a lot of technology used that we dont know about yet, which may be commercialized at some point...

Looking altogether on what we are capable of so far, the technology that we use nowadays at home is not exactly the fullest, as usual money plays a role here :P

Offtopic now: Why whenever recently I try to post something on forum it says that even though were using https, it may not be fully secured and may be passed on to the third parties?
Define recently , I think that would be since the forced SSL on the website.
I myself was unable to find any leaking packets.

I have some comments on the topic but out of time.

« Last Edit: May 27, 2014, 07:40:29 am by proxx »
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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 02:01:23 pm »
You cannot encrypt certain aspects of the website, such as images. Although forms are protected, images are not encrypted. It's important to note: signatures are one of the most insecure elements of a web page. Pure inline bbcode signatures contain links to pictures off site. But your connection to and from the server is encrypted. I said "encrypted" not "anonymous", remember. If you want it to display a secure connection, if you're that anal about your HTTPS, try disabling/blocking images on evilzone altogether. This will turn "partially encrypted" into "secure".

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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 02:36:18 pm »
Indeed, and thats how easy it is to gather all the src ip's from every evilzone member/visitor even though it might be a little challenge to actually lock them to specific people.
For this reason I would also like to see that we can store the images(99% waste of traffic) on the EZ servers instead of upstream linking.
Another funny fact is that since a lot of people use something like imgurl and such these parties will also have a profile of evilzone users etc.
Timestamping should not be that hard , if you can cross match it with post times etc.
Not saying this out of paranoia but it is good to realize the impact of such constructions.

And we are getting WAAY off-topic
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Re: DARPA's Plan X- Virtualization of Hacking
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 03:20:34 pm »
Sorry for going so far off topic. I watched this video like 4 times now and I can already say that the graphics for this virtual reality "cyber war" would probably be shit, considering there's so much real-time shit going on and whatnot.