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Offline PsychoRebellious

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Breaking the light barrier, change of perspesctive
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:30:08 pm »
First of all to understand my point I would like to have you all make an assumption that there is no space and just two bodies A and B in a void. The distance between the two bodies increases at some rate/any rate of speed. Now to a person standing on body A, the body B is moving apart and is in motion but for the person on body B, ,body A is moving farther. Based on this we can safely imply that without any observer 'outside' the system, rest and motion are merely states that have no definition and that 'every' observer has made a 'correct' observation (keep in mind the bodies are in mind with no reference point at all).  So we have concluded that for any system the observation of an observer inside the system and that of an observer outside the system hold true.
Coming back to my point light travels at a 'finite' speed as widely believed and that no object will supposedly ever break the light barrier and if he does terrible things might happen.(By terrible I mean things that we don't know shit about)
Now suppose the body A is travelling with a speed of 20 meters per second towards body B so it should take 20 meters for the bodies to collide now what if body A starts travelling towards the body B too at a speed of 10 meters per second. Now the collision will take place in less time.
The formula of speed=distance/time. Since the distance between the given distance was same inbetween and it took less time so we imply the bodies moved 'faster' this time.

Let us suppose you are in a spaceship that is moving with a speed of 2000km/second and you lit a bulb. Now the light travels to you at it's speed xxxx/second no faster than its actual speed but what if YOU travel towards the source of light at the same time? No matter how fragile or insignificant your speed is; it SHOULD add something to the total speed of the system. Your speed +light speed = lightspeed++, legit? Now to a person outside the spaceship travelling beyond the speed of light should be time travelling (Refer the top example where we proved that every observer's observation is correct) so doesn't this destroy the idea of 'oh i am light 1v1 me fag u cant reach my speed'


OR take the example you throw a ball 1 meter from you in a running train a person outside would see the ball covering a very large distance because of the train covering a distance too so the total distance would be distance covered by train in that interval add up to the distance of 1 meter the ball covered. But something is just wrong here for the speed of the ball to be same for both observers if the distance is different then the the only possible condition is time being different too so ... every observer has its own timeline?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 12:53:19 pm by PsychoRebellious »

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Re: Breaking the light barrier, change of perspesctive
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 12:55:01 pm »
You are adding values because you want to add them.
First you talk about newton and all the sudden you bring in einstein.

These case you describe would end in 2 colliding objects spilling their excessive speed as particals or energy to maintain something under the speed of light.
There are equations out there to do this.
Point is you can't go adding values according to newton in an einstein universe, make sense ?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 12:55:40 pm by proxx »
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Re: Breaking the light barrier, change of perspesctive
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 01:14:31 pm »
You aren't really travelling at, or past the speed of light. The concept is like standing stationary while a car speeds towards you. You run towards the car, but by no means come close to it's speed. You only decrease the time of collision. i.e the light of the Sun reaches Mercury first, and Neptune, later.
And as proxx said, you are adding values because you want to, yet you don't know what they even mean.
Let me ask you; what is speed?
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 01:19:37 pm by Pak_Track »

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