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Offline MGS1Snake

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TOR vs Freenet
« on: January 15, 2015, 03:44:49 am »
Related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1NYRskDt-Q

I could barely find any information on EZ about Freenet.
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Why not?
I thought this video was pretty good.


Opinions? Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2015, 02:59:55 pm »
Related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1NYRskDt-Q

I could barely find any information on EZ about Freenet.
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Why not?
I thought this video was pretty good.


Opinions? Maybe I'm missing something.


Meh, neither.. If I was hacking or doing something I shoudn't be doing I normally use a VPN then connect to the PROXY5 Server using the VPN. Whilst spoofing Mac address and tbh I'd say that's all you need to do.. However you need to make sure the VPN/Proxy5 server you use don't record logs. Either ask them via Support ticket or read through the terms and services and email them.
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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 01:14:24 am »
@Intel...

I suppose. Upon looking at Freenet even more, I think it's a great idea. Again, maybe I'm missing something but I was actually waiting for a Mod/Regular to give me more insight.
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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 01:22:36 am »
Freenet is nothing more than another overlay network. They are all pretty similar in terms of delivering access to networks other than the Internet, but neither are very useful for government anonymity.

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 01:31:24 am »
Freenet is nothing more than another overlay network. They are all pretty similar in terms of delivering access to networks other than the Internet, but neither are very useful for government anonymity.

So in a nutshell, on a gov. level, nothing is anonymous.

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 01:54:49 am »
Not necessarily. People are pretty much getting caught cause of poor OPSEC and correlation attacks(esp correlation attacks due to bad OPSEC).

The game becomes a bit harder for the gov folk if your browser is locked down and your just being a client. Running a hidden service is a bit of a different ballpark and takes a significant comb over to make sure you are running a tight crib. Even the NSA admitted in their slides that something like TAILS + TOR is basically GG and labeled a 'critical threat to the potential of intercepting encrypted communications' or some shizzle like that.

The key to dodging correlation attacks is seperation of duties. In other words, apply common sense and then apply the logical extremes. You shouldn't hack from home, ergo you shouldn't do ANYTHING related to yo extracurricular shenanigans remotely near your house. And don't be bringing home there either. No facebook at the same MCDonalds you been poppin boxen at, even if you be using a diff laptop real slick like, ya feel me?

Back to da topic at hand, I'd still go with TOR over Freenet for going hard in the paint, if only mo mofos be lookin at it real good ya feel me? I know what how the NSA attacks TOR, I dont how the NSA would attack Freenet. The devil ya know, amirite?

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 01:49:39 am »
Not necessarily. People are pretty much getting caught cause of poor OPSEC and correlation attacks(esp correlation attacks due to bad OPSEC).

The game becomes a bit harder for the gov folk if your browser is locked down and your just being a client. Running a hidden service is a bit of a different ballpark and takes a significant comb over to make sure you are running a tight crib. Even the NSA admitted in their slides that something like TAILS + TOR is basically GG and labeled a 'critical threat to the potential of intercepting encrypted communications' or some shizzle like that.

The key to dodging correlation attacks is seperation of duties. In other words, apply common sense and then apply the logical extremes. You shouldn't hack from home, ergo you shouldn't do ANYTHING related to yo extracurricular shenanigans remotely near your house. And don't be bringing home there either. No facebook at the same MCDonalds you been poppin boxen at, even if you be using a diff laptop real slick like, ya feel me?

Back to da topic at hand, I'd still go with TOR over Freenet for going hard in the paint, if only mo mofos be lookin at it real good ya feel me? I know what how the NSA attacks TOR, I dont how the NSA would attack Freenet. The devil ya know, amirite?

I can't stop laughing, literally. You're right my dude! I get that. I've put a decent amount of thought into this as well, and I'm thinking "most paranoid." So what are the chances of getting caught, cameras at location/building, cameras outside of building, cameras at street nearby, laptop, how to destroy information from HDD, etc? Perhaps I need to do a little bit more research in keeping anonymous. Most online tuts/vid provide little information.

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 02:02:37 am »
Then read this :)
Liked it very much and was the detailed guide I've ever seen.
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 02:25:34 am »
Then read this :)
Liked it very much and was the detailed guide I've ever seen.
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

This looks interesting. I haven't seen anything quite like this. Reading it now.

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Re: TOR vs Freenet
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 04:14:22 am »

Meh, neither.. If I was hacking or doing something I shoudn't be doing I normally use a VPN then connect to the PROXY5 Server using the VPN. Whilst spoofing Mac address and tbh I'd say that's all you need to do.. However you need to make sure the VPN/Proxy5 server you use don't record logs. Either ask them via Support ticket or read through the terms and services and email them.
I would also add: Don't use your own internet connection.
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