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LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« on: February 19, 2015, 06:50:37 pm »
Like the title says. I have Antergos Linux installed on my laptop but I'm looking for something different. Which one do you guys reckon is the best for:
A) Customizability
B) Keeping Packages/Applications up to date
C) Security

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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2015, 06:58:38 pm »
To be honest, never used Gentoo or LFS. Slackware, on the other hand, is my main OS.

It is customizable to the very end, as every OS you mentioned.
Packages are not always very new, it has a rather conservative version policy, but it's always possible to download and compile from source. By default, it is quite secure and can be hardened, since you have control over everything.

I hope this short insight helps.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2015, 07:04:44 pm »
To be honest, never used Gentoo or LFS. Slackware, on the other hand, is my main OS.

It is customizable to the very end, as every OS you mentioned.
Packages are not always very new, it has a rather conservative version policy, but it's always possible to download and compile from source. By default, it is quite secure and can be hardened, since you have control over everything.

I hope this short insight helps.


Thanks for the advice

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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2015, 07:30:18 pm »
No problem. In your position, I would simply read the docs on the different systems, since they are all very well-documented and base my decision on the results.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 10:50:19 pm »
Like the title says. I have Antergos Linux installed on my laptop but I'm looking for something different. Which one do you guys reckon is the best for:
A) Customizability
B) Keeping Packages/Applications up to date
C) Security
D) These systems are only as good as the person putting them together...
You're literally creating this system from what you put into it... so security is entirely your fault, whether good or bad.
Updating packages... also up to you


And they're all customizable...


That said... I'd go with Arch Linux, simply because it falls into the same catagory as the other three listed, but also has the best, most thorough and knowledgeable support community I've ever seen in a linux distro.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 03:55:45 am »
I would go with either Slackware, Gentoo/Funtoo, or CRUX. LFS only if you are interested in the knowledge and experience; how much is your time worth to you? Most LFSers I know eventually give it up for one reason or another.

I would stay away from any distro that is going/gone to systemd, personally.

I just picked up a Core2 Duo desktop machine, which will get either Gentoo, Funtoo, or CRUX. But Slackware is always my go-to, mainstay Linux distro. Other than that, it's OpenBSD.
BSD is what you get when a bunch of UNIX hackers sit down to try to port a UNIX system to the PC.
Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a UNIX system for the PC.

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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 04:47:34 am »
I would go with either Slackware, Gentoo/Funtoo, or CRUX. LFS only if you are interested in the knowledge and experience; how much is your time worth to you? Most LFSers I know eventually give it up for one reason or another.

I would stay away from any distro that is going/gone to systemd, personally.

I just picked up a Core2 Duo desktop machine, which will get either Gentoo, Funtoo, or CRUX. But Slackware is always my go-to, mainstay Linux distro. Other than that, it's OpenBSD.
Seriously though, what is your beef with systemd?
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 05:08:27 am »
It's feature-creep bloatware in search of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and a move away from the UNIX way: "short, simple, clear, modular, and extendable code that can be easily maintained and repurposed by developers other than its creators."

http://ewontfix.com/14/
http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/
http://sporkbox.us/misc/old_posts/95.html
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/
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BSD is what you get when a bunch of UNIX hackers sit down to try to port a UNIX system to the PC.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 05:04:50 pm »
It's feature-creep bloatware in search of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and a move away from the UNIX way: "short, simple, clear, modular, and extendable code that can be easily maintained and repurposed by developers other than its creators."

http://ewontfix.com/14/
http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/
http://sporkbox.us/misc/old_posts/95.html
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/tso-and-linus-and-the-impotent-rage-against-systemd/

I completely agree. This was the main reason for me to stay off Arch.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 05:58:54 am »
There was a time when I would have recommended Arch, too, but no more.
BSD is what you get when a bunch of UNIX hackers sit down to try to port a UNIX system to the PC.
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 03:42:00 am »
Is it bad that I prefer simple Debian or Slackware with KDE over all these 'fancy' distros?
Gentoo just doesn't do it for me, not sure why. Slackware and Debian have been good experiences for me.
Of course, you have to modify KDE to look less... horrific. But once that's done, both debian and slackware are pretty neat.
 
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Re: LFS vs Gentoo vs Slackware
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 11:55:07 am »
Define "fancy" a box running "hackedbox" windows manager or "openbox" is fancy, debain & slackware no longer even fall into the fancy catagory as the default is alway KDE or Gnome and over time both of those desktop's kind of exploded with feature's that even had the maintainers going "what the f*** is that, seriously am I supposed to be impressed!"