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calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« on: March 05, 2015, 06:57:16 pm »
I'm searching, but I can't find, how to calculate wpa speed base on gpu.
I only manage to find that speed is based on number of cores and core frequency
I found this site with lots of gpu tested
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http://golubev.com/gpuest.htm
So questions:
1) how good is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - 2 Go GDDR5 for wpa cracking with cudaHashcat, and what would be WPA speed? (is there any formula to calculate it)
2) is there any speed boost if it is GTX 860M - 4 G0 GDDR5 ? (what i learned say no, but i need to ask)

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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 09:54:41 pm »
Even for laptop?
I'm buying new laptop and for price <1000 euros, that's the best gpu card I coud find

GTX 860M with 2gb have core speed 1029 MHz & SP 640 MHz  ||| WPA = ?

GeForce GTX 750 Ti have core speed 1085 MHz & SP 640 MHz  ||| WPA speed = 53098

Can we say that 860M would have around 50000 (not less)?
I see that Radeon HD 7970M and HD8970M are better but use more watts and that means more heat
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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 10:47:59 pm »
WPA-PSK hashes are salted with the SSID so in theory cracking speed depends on the byte-length of the SSID. If the SSID is longer in character-length, that's more bytes that have to be processed during hash computation. Hashcat pre-computes the hashes on the fly so the longer the SSID, the longer hashcat will take during pre-computation before the hash-comparison sequence.

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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 10:50:23 pm »
For a laptop that wont be too bad, definitely get the 4 gb version as it has a different chipset which raises the total computational power from 1300 gflops to 2100 gflops.

Obviously a 980M would be ideal as it has ~3400 gflops but you should get...

~120 thousand tries per second with an 860M, if the ratio from my machine to yours holds.

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you would get ~ 6 billion md5 hashes a second. So I'd say for your average bear an 860M would more than do the job. OFC for what you spend on this laptop you could make a kickass desktop but thats not really the point
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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 12:23:09 am »
Ok didnt know that for SSID. Thanks

So @HTH what I understand with GTX 860M 4gb GDDR5, I will have WPA speed ~120 000 tries/s?

I know that I can get good desktop for same price. But I need portable because this one laptop is old. And to be honest it use less power, I dont plan to be professional, and IT isn't my job speciality. I'm not always at home so laptop is best choise.

This one was number1 :)
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http://www.grosbill.com/4-asus_g551jm_cn102h_-627062-ordinateurs-portable_jeux#datasheet_fiche_techniquethis one have 2gb more ram on gpu and it is 17 inch. and bigger ssd. But 1kg more..
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http://www.grosbill.com/4-asus_g741jm_t4046h_-627066-ordinateurs-ordi_portable#datasheet_fiche_technique

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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 12:43:31 am »

So @HTH what I understand with GTX 860M 4gb GDDR5, I will have WPA speed ~120 000 tries/s?

I know that I can get good desktop for same price. But I need portable because this one laptop is old. And to be honest it use less power, I dont plan to be professional, and IT isn't my job speciality. I'm not always at home so laptop is best choise.


Yes, the 860M with 4 gb will give you ~120,000 tries/second, the 2 gb would be about 80,000.
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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 01:20:29 am »
THANKS @HTH

Well I would be happy with 80 000 :)!! that would take 9 days for my custom wordlist :) (just to compare it is 723 days with speed i have  1000t/s :D )

One more question and I'm done :)

GTX 850M 2gb DDR3 comparing to GTX 860M 2gb GDDR5.  Will it give ~70 000 tries/s or less?
The only diference comparing to GTX 860M is DDR3 and lower core speed of 93 (936 MHz for GTX 850M)
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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 02:04:54 am »
it -looks- like that would be a viable guess (70k/s) I mean.

No promises though.
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Re: calculating wpa speed (gpu)
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 02:22:15 am »
More then 50k/s is fine :)!!

THANKS AGAIN :)