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So I Decided to go for it
« on: May 05, 2015, 01:00:06 pm »
http://www.securitytube-training.com/online-courses/securitytube-metasploit-framework-expert/#enroll

Started the course just out of curiosity sake. Anyone else completed this before?
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2015, 01:28:49 pm »
Tell me you didn't just fork over $250 on this.
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2015, 03:04:15 pm »
There is no company that cares about certs from websites.
DeepCopy | Can you name a VPN provider that's like "hey use our services to hack government sites and spam the internet. Please Abuse our services"

+Polyphony | paging master hackers of evilzone: i am here to learn about your black hatted tools to hack different viruses like facebook, sql, php, and other ring zero exploits


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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2015, 03:06:24 pm »
The course videos are free http://www.securitytube.net/groups?operation=view&groupId=10


The only good thing about the paid course might be the lab, but i'm sure you could also set one up quick and easily for free also. I doubt the cert hold weight but might be good for self satisfaction.


 



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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 03:07:09 pm »
Yes all materials of this course are available for free (or some low price books). But if you have money to spend why you don't try OSCP course+lab+certification.
If it's for learn and update your CV I think it is more effective !
If it's just for learn : use free papers, some books, and free available labs/challenges ...

Have fun anyway !
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2015, 03:10:35 pm »
I sent the team an email. It does look extremely basic, I didn't pay yet though.

Yeah metasploit has content freely available.

I was wondering if the course did have any value, I have completed some courses over some time now, just wanted to broaden my knowledge and get the "Paper to show it. Since ceh and cissp didn't go fishing in the deep with metasploit I thought it would be a good idea. Although the msf is not really hard, basic actually,  I guess you could see why I wanted this extra knowledge and paper.

Thanks for the great input, I could have wasted money.
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 03:24:29 pm »
As n01xxv said if you have the money go for the OSCP. The PWK lab is amazing and as long as you don't stress out and quit you will definitely learn.

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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2015, 03:38:16 pm »
As n01xxv said if you have the money go for the OSCP. The PWK lab is amazing and as long as you don't stress out and quit you will definitely learn.
I will give the OSCP a try it looks very interesting. Don't worry thirst for knowledge overpowers stress.
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2015, 03:40:39 pm »
To be honest, it isn't "so" much about the knowledge you get from certs, it's the paper they give you. Most learning is either on the job or on your own because you enjoy it. The issue is, which paper you get.

We at EZ could give a course or two on hacking and security, charge $250 a pop and give you a piece of paper after you pay us and say you read the shit we send out for the course, but if you take that paper to a job or an employer you'll be laughed at. It's just like accredited colleges vs some online shit like University of Phoenix or that Art Institute crap.

Anyone can hand out 'papers' if you give them money, what matters is who gives them out and the people wanting to know (employers).

Truth of the matter is, if you have a passion for it, you will seek the knowledge anyway. In this field everything you could possibly have to learn is out there and free for you to learn. All the knowledge known about it is free and for public consumption, the only things that aren't free and out to public is the things you haven't found yet, such as a new exploit or a new attack vector or a way around something that hasn't been discovered.
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2015, 06:22:05 pm »
To be honest, it isn't "so" much about the knowledge you get from certs, it's the paper they give you. Most learning is either on the job or on your own because you enjoy it. The issue is, which paper you get.

We at EZ could give a course or two on hacking and security, charge $250 a pop and give you a piece of paper after you pay us and say you read the shit we send out for the course, but if you take that paper to a job or an employer you'll be laughed at. It's just like accredited colleges vs some online shit like University of Phoenix or that Art Institute crap.

Anyone can hand out 'papers' if you give them money, what matters is who gives them out and the people wanting to know (employers).

Truth of the matter is, if you have a passion for it, you will seek the knowledge anyway. In this field everything you could possibly have to learn is out there and free for you to learn. All the knowledge known about it is free and for public consumption, the only things that aren't free and out to public is the things you haven't found yet, such as a new exploit or a new attack vector or a way around something that hasn't been discovered.

Very good insight man! +1 I couldn't agree more to what you said... Thanks again for all the input. By the way to the people that are reading this that don't know much about the OSCP course, it is provided by Offensive Security  : https://www.offensive-security.com

You need to complete the Penetration Testing with Kali before you can enroll for this course though, which would probably also be worth it.

By the looks of it all of the courses that Offensive Security provide look good and I think I would love to do one at a time in a while say every 5 months or so, because it is a lot of money to take out when you want to complete multiple courses.

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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2015, 06:43:23 pm »
Very good insight man! +1 I couldn't agree more to what you said... Thanks again for all the input. By the way to the people that are reading this that don't know much about the OSCP course, it is provided by Offensive Security  : https://www.offensive-security.com

You need to complete the Penetration Testing with Kali before you can enroll for this course though, which would probably also be worth it.

By the looks of it all of the courses that Offensive Security provide look good and I think I would love to do one at a time in a while say every 5 months or so, because it is a lot of money to take out when you want to complete multiple courses.


PWK is the course you buy . Once you complete the test you get the OSCP certification.So you dont actually buy two separate things they are one.  If you decide to take this course just make sure you have enough free time to do it. Depending on your skill level it might take a while. this course will not spoon feed you and you will need to go the extra mile to complete it. But its hella fun

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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2015, 06:48:14 pm »

PWK is the course you buy . Once you complete the test you get the OSCP certification.So you dont actually buy two separate things they are one.  If you decide to take this course just make sure you have enough free time to do it. Depending on your skill level it might take a while. this course will not spoon feed you and you will need to go the extra mile to complete it. But its hella fun

Great news! I believe I will be able to do it, but the free time part... Not so much  ::) . Will have to make some time somewhere.
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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2015, 07:40:50 pm »
Great news! I believe I will be able to do it, but the free time part... Not so much  ::) . Will have to make some time somewhere.


I'm positive you can do it as long as you want it. Just thought i would let you know, If you run out of time you can always buy more lab time. Its just not very cheap tho. so as long as you go the cash you can take as long as you want

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Re: So I Decided to go for it
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2015, 08:03:02 pm »

I'm positive you can do it as long as you want it. Just thought i would let you know, If you run out of time you can always buy more lab time. Its just not very cheap tho. so as long as you go the cash you can take as long as you want

Yes I saw this option is available, I think taking a longer period would work"if I run out" but I have to say this looks like a challenge I would love to take on. Thanks for the help, here is your cookie!
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