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Offline Day_dreamer

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I have my Kali installed in my vmware, I've been using tor and proxychains4 for a year or so, it was fine except for a few error and potentially dangerous connection pop ups. Dnsleak results are fine so far but I know that tor is no longer as reliable as before ;(. So I decided to run cyber ghost VPN in my host os which is win 10 and enabled nat network option for my kali linux to benefit its vpn services. Along with that I still run tor and proxychains4 in my kali box to serve as a 3rd level of protection.My defense format:1st(not connected to my own isp, I have access to my neighbor's) 2nd(cyber ghost free version) 3rd( tor with proxychains4). What do you guys think? I know this is just one aspect of anonymity but for this aspect, will I still be traceable? I don't target big websites just the small one's, I just wanna practice my skills. Ps pardon my english its not my first language tnx (=.
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2015, 07:31:49 am »
Your anonymity is as good as cyberghosts VPN logging policy, and your proxies in your chain, as well as your neighbors isp
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2015, 02:02:23 pm »
\ So I decided to run cyber ghost VPN in my host os which is win 10 and enabled nat network option for my kali linux to benefit its vpn services.




Hmmm wonder if your still safe since  windows 10 reports everything you do . wonder if the spying carries over into the VMs. 


Does anyone here happen to know ?

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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 04:24:40 pm »



Hmmm wonder if your still safe since  windows 10 reports everything you do . wonder if the spying carries over into the VMs. 


Does anyone here happen to know ?
Your question is kinda silly.
A VM is just another piece of hardware as far as the OS is concerned, no other rules apply.
This is not related to hardware.
But this is kinda hijacking don't you think.


OP, listen.
Sit the fuck down, learn some programming, basic networking, linux and move on to sec after you got some solid base.
Stop talking like the next HF member about vpn's , TOR or whatever it is you heard.
You cannot protect yourself when you cannot figure out what is wrong with the question in the first place.
Apart from not being a  risk of any sort.
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 04:54:32 pm »



Hmmm wonder if your still safe since  windows 10 reports everything you do . wonder if the spying carries over into the VMs. 


Does anyone here happen to know ?


I heard about that issue right after I decided to install windows 10 ;(. On a lighter note window's stalking can be minimized dramatically by modifying default settings especially settings-->privacy & account menu. I think vm have good isolation properties, since I believe it is programmed for that purpose, but thanks for the concern =)
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2015, 04:55:06 pm »
Your question is kinda silly.
A VM is just another piece of hardware as far as the OS is concerned, no other rules apply.
This is not related to hardware.
But this is kinda hijacking don't you think.


I wasn't trying to jack the thread . I just remember the win 10 dev key logged everything. I haven't read up on all of windows 10 ways of spying so wasn't sure if they still did in the release . But if so it would still record everything that you typed in the VM also i would think. and if so no matter what u used to be anonymous while hacking things you  shouldn't in a VM, they could still know what ur doing .


 im probably wrong it was just a thought not to use a spying OS even when im using a VM to do something i could get in trouble for . 


 maybe i need a tinfoil hat.




 I think vm have good isolation properties, since I believe it is programmed for that purpose, but thanks for the concern =)




If they have malware and exploits to get out from the VM onto your main PC what would stop windows ?
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2015, 06:20:44 pm »
I personally don't like VMs for anything other then testing setups and custom ISOs, however I'm pretty sure they set up there own hardware that pulls from the OS device.

OP
Since Anonymity is your goal, have you tried distributions such as Tails? In anycase, why not use a USB with your tinfoil hat? They are cheap and very easy to throw away.

Depending on your needs, you may be going overboard or not secure enough. To elaborate on my initial responce, CyberGhost free states they don't keep logs and has a good transparency report which could be to your benefit. As far as TOR I'm sure you're aware that whoever is in control of the exit node, is in control of what information is shared. And the government has flooded TOR with exit nodes. Then onto your proxies in your chain, these can hurt you or help you, it all depends on how well you trust them. If they're public proxies they could be logging every step you make or they could not. If you don't trust them, I wouldn't even use them. Your best layer is not using your ISP, but it would be better from a hotspot instead of a home network.

These are just my thoughts and good luck on your goal of anonymity
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2015, 04:37:08 pm »
I personally don't like VMs for anything other then testing setups and custom ISOs, however I'm pretty sure they set up there own hardware that pulls from the OS device.

OP
Since Anonymity is your goal, have you tried distributions such as Tails? In anycase, why not use a USB with your tinfoil hat? They are cheap and very easy to throw away.

Depending on your needs, you may be going overboard or not secure enough. To elaborate on my initial responce, CyberGhost free states they don't keep logs and has a good transparency report which could be to your benefit. As far as TOR I'm sure you're aware that whoever is in control of the exit node, is in control of what information is shared. And the government has flooded TOR with exit nodes. Then onto your proxies in your chain, these can hurt you or help you, it all depends on how well you trust them. If they're public proxies they could be logging every step you make or they could not. If you don't trust them, I wouldn't even use them. Your best layer is not using your ISP, but it would be better from a hotspot instead of a home network.

These are just my thoughts and good luck on your goal of anonymity

Have not used tails yet, do you think it can be a good platform for a pentest build? I have used live usb /w persistence before but its very limited in terms of space, since I have a habit of adding tools and documents etc.

Thanks you have verified my thoughts regarding cyber ghost and tor =). That is the primary reason I don't target "big" sites, they have the resources to track....Still my best layer of defense is not using my own isp. But why do you think hotspots are better?Most establishment here have cctv on every corner and it scares the hell out of me. btw I'm using a long range antenna (hidden in plain sight) targets are only on the north side, to prevent triangulation tracing (I found out about this concept in the movie "untraceable").
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2015, 10:03:00 pm »
On the hardware level u can be tracked, each PC leaves a unique print, even your battery can be used to track you. I do not see what kind of "hack" you intend to do that justifies all this. Complete anonymity is impossible, no matter what you do, remember that people dump traffic directly from the fiber cable.
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2015, 12:25:20 am »
I do not see what kind of "hack" you intend to do that justifies all this.
Thats the lulz part, he is no danger to anyone, just figured it sounds cool.
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Re: Host os: cyber ghost & guest os: tor + proxychains4 enough? tell me (=
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2015, 07:10:41 am »
Thats the lulz part, he is no danger to anyone, just figured it sounds cool.

Agree ! Im totally harmless at least for now =P
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