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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2015, 10:25:11 am »
Well.... the NSA and FBI are mad because when anonymous exposed the Twitter accounts of ISIS members the company acted fast and suspended some of them. Really what anonymous is doing is pointless because the NSA and FBI could've used the accounts to read their messages which is one way they communicate and recruit  :o

They're the NSA and FBI. Suspension or otherwise, they can still read the accounts' messages and info.

This will amount to nothing, really. Twitter isn't even the only channel ISIS uses to spread propaganda, they also make use of encrypted messaging apps such as Telegram to do the same. At most the people doing the radicalising will be temporarily inconvenienced, but it's not as if they've done the equivalent of killing Osama bin Laden.

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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2015, 07:56:44 pm »
Just an update.
Anonymous Has Shutdown 28,000+ ISIS’ Twitter Accounts Since OpParis Began

https://www.hackread.com/anonymous-shutdown-28000-isis-twitter-accounts/

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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2015, 11:35:58 pm »
I'm reminded of the darpa project I think HD Moore worked on to test new grant paperwork, was basically a wardialler on speed built for about 50$ that could call every number in a given country in less than an hour. There was some amusing speculation about how many bombs in development one could set off by hitting cell phone triggers early. How long semi-random country wide cell phone calls would terrorists stand before abandoning that trigger method.

Other than maybe toying with that, there really isn't much a hacker could do to truly damage an organization like ISIS without discretely handing data over to authorities and letting them make the judgement call.

Even something 'big' but misguided like announcing the locations of ammo depots and training groups could easily, and likely, turn into a case of 'we already knew about that, and thanks for giving the terrorists a heads up when we had an OP planned in three days when a high value target would have been inspecting the camp, yup, real helpful anon'.

People like anonymous dont realize that in a true information warefare its impossible to be an independent and successful third party. If you could there would be literally ZERO reason for the CIA/NSA to work with the GHQ on ANYTHING. In an information war if you have an enemy, you HAVE to side with your enemy's enemies or else you simply risk helping your enemy instead. At least, if you plan to take objectable action with the data you gain.

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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2015, 10:27:12 pm »
Yeah well innocent people living with terrorists aren't really innocent coinciding their allowing a terrorist regime to stay in their home. Fuck them all and nuke then and be done with it. However war is very profitable so it'll never happen. Nuke em and be done with it would actually show the terrorists we're done with you. Attacks on Paris wouldn't have happened if we nuked them, all those beheadings propaganda or not wouldn't be spreading terror. Innocents are doing anyways but I would rather them be future terrorists opposed to American, European, etc.

It may not be a popular opinion but it's one that would stop ISIS in their tracks. It would take a while for the next Al-Queda, ISIS, whatever. But no matter what there will always be terrorists but hit them at their core and it would be a while for them to rebuild. Once they do, nuke them again and repeat the damn process. They will never give up, but they would eventually get the hint that we will annihilate them once their cell gets big enough to catch our attention


I don't believe nuking people is the answer...it just fucks up land and seas and everything else for many many years. If global leaders really wanted to end this, it would just be a matter of days. But thats just not what they want...and as you said it yourself, they'll never give up and there will always be some stupid group that wants revenge. Political maneuvers must be made instead, but again...thats what I believe.
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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2015, 11:00:04 pm »
Fallout? Fallout?

Frankly, until human beings destroy ourselves entirely, we won't stop trying to destroy ourselves. We're too good at it to stop now

Indeed, dude...Fallout IRL! Unless they keep sniffing out the network for info about locations of TR cells and leaders or "trees of business", there won't be any real war on ISIS. If they're hackers, they should work on info. Actually taking down accounts helps in a way, shutting down their recruitment networks and cores. But if nothing bigger is done...it won't be of good enough use.

PS: this article explains a lot who's responsible and what should be done...at least for me http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/
« Last Edit: November 24, 2015, 11:00:42 pm by 51n15t3r »
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Re: Anonymous declares war on Isil
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2015, 03:08:31 pm »
I actually applaud people like th3j3st3r for his tactics when it comes to ISIS/ISIL/IS. Funnelling them into areas that are easier to monitor seems like the best way to keep tabs on them. It's sad that in this day and age we're still killing each other over religion, or at least saying we are.