Exe Size

[bubzuru]

i just opend my delphi 2010 ide for the first time in a while and built a standerd console app
complied it and the exe size is 63kb wtf i disabeldas much of RTTI as possible and only saved 3kb , delphi 2007 ever had exe sizes like this

any ideas on how to shrink the file size

[bubzuru]

omg i hate delphi 2010 if i want my app unicode then i will do it no be forced to
im uninstalling it now. dephi 2009 is going back on all i want is a nice language with easy access to the windows api

[xzid]

Use pascal? Don't code either, but from what I hear pascal matches up w/C. A nice language with easy access to WinAPI: C, MASM32.

[bubzuru]

Use pascal? Don't code either, but from what I hear pascal matches up w/C. A nice language with easy access to WinAPI: C, MASM32.

well delphi is (object) pascal with a few nice unit threw in plus a nice RAD environment
basically just an IDE for object pascal and yup im pretty sure u can use MASM from delphi code

i just dont like delphi 2010 because of the unicode , plus the standard exe size has gone up.
you call a api function like CreateProcess and it calls CreateProcessW :S im installing delphi 2009 or maybe 7 

[xzid]

Uhh.. I just disassembled a hello world freepascal app. 

Was 30k, kinda big, not huge though. maybe comparing it to gcc(8k) was unfair.

[bubzuru]

Uhh.. I just disassembled a hello world freepascal app. 

Was 30k, kinda big, not huge though. maybe comparing it to gcc(8k) was unfair.

take a look at this
http://www.delphibasics.info/home/delphibasicsarticles/smallapplicationsindelphibyn0v4

1kb 'delphi' (not 2010) file, basically just strips out everything that makes it delphi
might aswell write in c\++ if your gunna do this, but still a nice read

[xzid]

Yeah you can do that with most compiled languages, just made equivalent in C(1.5k). If I played around w/it could bring it down to 1k. -> edit: will try, --> re-edit: can only go smaller w/o winapi, tired of trying.

My comparison was with everything the compiler wants you to include, with asm you can go pretty damn small:

PE(133 bytes):
http://www.phreedom.org/solar/code/tinype/

ELF(45 bytes):
http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html

[Kulverstukas]

If you think this is big - try FreePascal
Empty form takes 11mb LOL.
Did you try using StripReloc? it reduces the size a little by stripping some shit out: http://www.jrsoftware.org/striprlc.php
Also there is UPX but you probably knew about that
Oh and for FreePascal I am using a different tool to strip stuff. I'll upload if you like.

[bubzuru]

If you think this is big - try FreePascal
Empty form takes 11mb LOL.
Did you try using StripReloc? it reduces the size a little by stripping some shit out: http://www.jrsoftware.org/striprlc.php
Also there is UPX but you probably knew about that
Oh and for FreePascal I am using a different tool to strip stuff. I'll upload if you like.

empty form in delphi 2010 is 80kb ha
fuck it im just gunna use delphi 2009 and put up with a 50k file