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Offline rogue.hackz

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Reading on Kindle
« on: December 27, 2015, 08:21:51 pm »
Hi guys, reading is one of those stuff that I feel like is really important and a big chunk of what I've read in the past has been mainly on computers (Ebooks).

Few years ago, I decided to get a Kindle (Paperwhite) and it seemed actually a good way to read books whether technical or fiction or whatever and it's also really easy on the eyes.

But up until now I always just put the pdf file directly into kindle and was okay with it, but recently I discovered that the real way to read on a kindle is to use a kindle friendly format like mobi, azw3, etc.

Holyshit it opened up a whole new world for me and made me realize how stupid I was that I didn't research enough to understand this earlier. Reading on a .mobi or .azw3 format is fucking awesome, the options for line spacing / indentation, margin, font customization, word lookup, wikipedia access to selected text are all the features that are just too good that I think makes reading any book fun again. Usually reading a technical or text book from a pdf file with hundreds of blocks of cluttered text on a computer feels like a chore to me and this is the point where kindle shines in my opinion.

So far if a format is like epub, etc. it can be instantly converted to a mobi format using a tool like Calibre without any hassle, but I have a lot of pdf files and it's quite difficult or should I say impossible to get them converted to a kindle supported format since pdf format wasn't originally developed with that goal in mind. Not that pdf's dont work on kindle, they do but you have to manually zoom in / out everytime which is annoying and after a while you get so annoyed of doing this repetitive thing that you decide to squint and read the small texts and it hurts your eyes lol.

I've tried various things, the last stuff that I tried was stripping pdfs to barebones images and rescaling using k2pdfopt and finally converting to mobi using calibre. It sort of worked okay but still you don't have the customization options of a native mobi format since those are just images and not recognized as texts.

I would be interested in hearing if you guys do have other ways of converting those bloated pdf files onto some format that is more readble on a kindle, etc.

Feel free to suggest other ideas of reading, doesn't have to be a kindle, perhaps something that works for you.



« Last Edit: December 27, 2015, 08:54:17 pm by rogue.hackz »
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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2015, 09:39:36 pm »
You can email pdfs and some other formats to your kindle device(s) as email attachment. To convert pdf documents just put title "convert" and it will be converted to kindle format and sended to your device(s). Read more details from here --> http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email

This works like a charm, I use it all the time.
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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 10:35:54 pm »
Hey thanks @gray-fox, I've read before of this technique but wasn't sure how practical it would be so decided to try it anyway. It works automagically, I dunno what secret sauce amazon uses behind their servers for the conversion but it gets the job done. The pdf is like a perfect native azw3 formatted document with all the features of kindle working as expected. Only constraint that I can think of is my current upload speed which isn't that great, but it's not that big of a deal.
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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 03:28:02 pm »
how is the reading experience? So Amazon lets me add my own PDFs to the kindle easily? If I buy a book can I download it and use it later, means if I lose the kindle and buy a new one do I still own the bought book?

Pro and Contra?

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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 06:42:30 pm »
This is why I went with PocketBook instead of Kindle... because PocketBook supports much more formats and has better reading layout options. I wrote about my experiences here:

https://evilzone.org/hardware/ereader-or-tablet/msg96864/#msg96864

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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 11:23:30 pm »
@nrael: I can confirm that if you send your books (pdf, word document, etc.) to your kindle account email address with the header "convert" it works like a charm and it gets converted to a native format that is readable on the kindle. The books that you buy or upload (via email) stays in the account so even if you lose your kindle and buy a new one you can always link the new kindle with your amazon account and redownload all your books.

@Kulverstukas: Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. The pdf actually looks kind of nice with the reflow and the best deal breaking feature of that reader is that it natively supports pdf and variety of formats without the need for conversion, therefore saving a lot of time. But I'm not sure about the availability of this device, only place I could find it was on Amazon with limited shipping options (not being available for shipping in my country) and it seems to be a bit more on the expensive side.

Since the kindle works perfectly with pdf files after conversion I no longer have to worry about reading on a kindle again and thanks to @gray-fox for helping me out.
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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2015, 07:23:06 am »
@Kulverstukas: Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. The pdf actually looks kind of nice with the reflow and the best deal breaking feature of that reader is that it natively supports pdf and variety of formats without the need for conversion, therefore saving a lot of time. But I'm not sure about the availability of this device, only place I could find it was on Amazon with limited shipping options (not being available for shipping in my country) and it seems to be a bit more on the expensive side.
Not sure which country doesn't have pocketbook, but for me it was cheaper than Kindle and we have it in every electronics shop :/

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Re: Reading on Kindle
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 10:11:09 am »
@Kulverstukas: Whats the OS on the device with all the features it supports looks like custom android rom?? How's the hardware build quality?? I myself only went with kindle cause the hardware quality is above par vs kobo (spare parts are easy to source for kindle vs others also  :P)

@rogue.hackz: kindle's use a stripped down linux os thats why PDF support kinda sucks, you can mod it (have to disable your amazon cloud sync) and if you haven't seen .azw4 books yet they are PDF's enclosed in .mobi I think it was (makes it more readable vs same book .pdf but no one has a good converter app yet like amazon does)

kulverstukas damn you  >:( now you got me interested in that pocketbook as long as it's not a custom android rom OS !!!!!

Pocketbook is using LINUX OS think I might have to switch up now...
« Last Edit: December 31, 2015, 10:44:04 am by wopr »