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Finally my own
« on: February 28, 2012, 07:13:11 am »
I've been doing my best to do the things I do on someone elses laptop. Its an acer. OS windows 7. Its crap. Unimportant. Anyway I'm finally going to be getting my own laptop. Im not sure what to look for exactly I just know that I want a linux OS. Although dual booting sounds extremely appealing.
Oh and no macs

i figured theres no one better to ask then the people on this forum.
Input please? Thanks
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 07:22:36 am »
Need more details such as: price range, capabilities, size, etc.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 07:35:53 am »
Price range: 3 to 5 hundred
preferably ubuntu
(i imagine 16gb of DDR3 is a bit unneccesary)
quad core processor(neccesary?)
2.4ghz
storage at least 250gb
although I guess Im also looking for what specs the people here recommend


As I've said im not experienced in hardware.....and unlike probably every member here Im sure, Ive never actually owned my own computer. Its sad. Also unimportant.
Does this help?


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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 07:56:05 am »
You seem a bit overly optimistic for the price that you stated but here is an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215257

Edit: I am going on the assumption that you mean US dollars by the way
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 08:01:44 am »
Or there is this if you can would rather have less cores and faster processor speed per core: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101256 I just looked these up in a couple minutes as starting points for you to go by.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 08:11:24 am »
The second one looks good.
Are most linux based laptops more expensive? I suppose I could get a windows and dual boot yeah?

I guess I don't need four cores.
Also thanks for the head start.  :D

EDIT: I guess 2.4ghz is a little much to ask for
 
« Last Edit: February 28, 2012, 08:16:25 am by LuciD »
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 08:28:37 am »
I understand that one laptop may be better than another if my interests are programming/security as opposed to say gaming.
I hear many good things about ubuntu.

Perhaps I'd be better with a desktop?
At least that way I'd pass Kulver's gay test lol.
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 10:03:54 am »
I understand that one laptop may be better than another if my interests are programming/security as opposed to say gaming.
I hear many good things about ubuntu.

Perhaps I'd be better with a desktop?
At least that way I'd pass Kulver's gay test lol.

Not really necessary to be a desktop. I've work for about three years in an Acer laptop. During that time I've always used Ubuntu. I tried other, but I like Ubuntu. I have done a lot of different project for college and other things with this laptop. It cost me about 500 EUR at the time and it never had any problems.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 10:52:27 am »
I am a Ubuntu user, and as much as I like Linux - I must warn you that you will suffer with Linux only. Dual-booting is a must for a home user and it isn't rocket science. You just have to select which OS you want to boot at the start...
There are many things that you just can't do with Ubuntu that you can do with Windows and WINE doesn't always help - think about video editing. Programs available for Linux sucks dick compared to windows.

Anyway, I have an Acer eMachines Zsomething - 3GB ram, 2.13 or something GHz processor, 256 integrated video card.
Not very fancy but is very nice and does the job for me - I don't play games or watch HD movies at all, so it's fine for video editing, coding etc.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 11:57:32 am »
I am a Ubuntu user, and as much as I like Linux - I must warn you that you will suffer with Linux only. Dual-booting is a must for a home user and it isn't rocket science. You just have to select which OS you want to boot at the start...
There are many things that you just can't do with Ubuntu that you can do with Windows and WINE doesn't always help - think about video editing. Programs available for Linux sucks dick compared to windows.

Anyway, I have an Acer eMachines Zsomething - 3GB ram, 2.13 or something GHz processor, 256 integrated video card.
Not very fancy but is very nice and does the job for me - I don't play games or watch HD movies at all, so it's fine for video editing, coding etc.

I agree. I have a laptop for work and desktop for entertainment and other stuff. On my laptop I only have Ubuntu. I don't play games or watch movies there. About WINE. I have never used it that must, but the little experience I have with it isn't all that great. I can say that if one needs serious work done with a windows program, he should use windows and not WINE.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 01:16:45 pm »
The second one looks good.
Are most linux based laptops more expensive? I suppose I could get a windows and dual boot yeah?

I guess I don't need four cores.
Also thanks for the head start.  :D

EDIT: I guess 2.4ghz is a little much to ask for
 
There is almost no such thing as high performance linux based laptops,  all mainline laptops get shipped with windows 7/mac,   or you need a netbook, those are almost all unix based.

Just get an average laptop, and install ubuntu next to windows, get a known brand with known devices so you are less likely to get driver problems on linux.  goodluck :D
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 04:22:14 pm »
Look out for laptops with a broadcom wifi chip.
Broadcom is very good, but it also gives major problems when installing it's drivers - you have to have specific ones. Also you will have lots of damn work trying to make it work on Linux.
My laptop has a broadcom and I probably wasted a week until I got it working on Ubuntu by a miracle...
If anyone will need then I'll write how I got it working.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 05:08:39 pm »
Personally I think only having a linux computer severely limits you. I run Windows on my desktop and I put Ubuntu on my Asus Eee Pc to replace the crappy Windows 7 Starter that came on it.

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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 05:28:59 pm »
Personally I think only having a linux computer severely limits you. I run Windows on my desktop and I put Ubuntu on my Asus Eee Pc to replace the crappy Windows 7 Starter that came on it.
There are no limits,  limits is something you create for your self,    but i prefer a dual boot on a laptop, because there are some great applications on windows only, like adobe etc.
I partitioned my hdd in 3 parts, windows. data and linux,  as you can see, 2 os partitions and 1 for data exchange between those two.
Works like a charm :D
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Re: Finally my own
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 01:22:49 am »
Considering dual booting is what I was excited about doing anyway, and thats what the majority of people here have recommended then I'll definitely be doing that.

Windows 7 next to Ubuntu is sounding like a good choice. Thanks to everyone.

EDIT: Its sounding like the specs of a laptop aren't so important then as one can do almost anything they want on a dual boot laptop even if its 300 dollars and has only one or two cores.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 01:30:12 am by LuciD »
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