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First Step ?
« on: February 29, 2012, 02:56:52 pm »
I have been reading alot on this forum, i'm new to hacking but I do know i have to learn my programming first. But the thing is there are many arguement between C, C++ or Perl. Which or what to start with is better.

After all the research i did on google, i find that the one popular among peoples are C and Perl. But i do not know which to learn first if it's for me to go into programming.

I'm planning to do hacks for games such as trainer's and bots. What do you guys suggest me on learning and after that what's the next step should i take ?

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 03:32:09 pm »
Some hacking tricks and methods don't necessitate any prior knowledge in programming. But for making tools you need to be very knowledgeable in programming, not the kind of knowledge that you can get in hours or days 


Just a tip for you..
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 03:32:31 pm by Axon »

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 04:07:00 pm »
So what do you suggest for me to go for if i'm going for this kind of tools ?

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 04:23:36 pm »
So what do you suggest for me to go for if i'm going for this kind of tools ?

Technically speaking, The question "What is the best programming language?" is wrong. The real question is "What do I want to do? " because almost all programming languages serve the same purpose except low-level programming languages which have limited purpose. To get a clear picture about the difference between low-level and high-level programming languages read this

http://www.play-hookey.com/computers/language_levels.html

Now it's a matter of personal preference. I would say start with Python, someone might say start with C or C++. At the end it's your choice
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 04:24:35 pm by Axon »

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 05:41:09 pm »
@Axeon, Thanks bro.

Then what do you think ? Should work on C first then going to C++ or should i do C++ first then going to C. I'm asking for advice right now so that i could start tomorrow on studying programming.

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 05:52:59 pm »
@Axeon, Thanks bro.

Then what do you think ? Should work on C first then going to C++ or should i do C++ first then going to C. I'm asking for advice right now so that i could start tomorrow on studying programming.

I said it before. Python
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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 06:57:51 pm »
I said it before. Python
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Yes. Python. Definitely not C++. You will go crazy if you take up C++ as your first language. I did, and now I am crazy.

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 07:34:18 pm »
Python and than C++

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 10:38:29 pm »
Python and than C++

I would say "Python and then a random language of your choice"

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 12:05:13 am »
I would say Python and then a language depending on what you want to do next. Every language has a niche where it shines and where it is terrible. :)

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 12:55:07 am »
Kudos to python. Another Vouch from me.
Really nice language to know and is ideal for a beginner... here in Lithuania they should teach python in schools and not Pascal (pascal is nice too but a bit old for todays standards, right?).
I heard they want to change it to C++ now and all exams would be in C++... it's pretty bullshit if you ask me!
Python is easier than Pascal...

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 01:09:58 am »
I heard they want to change it to C++ now and all exams would be in C++... it's pretty bullshit if you ask me!

Reply for you and people discussing python/C++ in this topic. I totally agree if they go over to C++ in your school. When you go to collage you are not fucking around, C++ is way superior to Python once you know it(I know it does depend on the job you want done, but in general). Those who attend to collage does it because they want to meaning you should be motivated to learn and therefore have no problem learning C++, even as your first language.

With that said. Yes Python is easier than C++. I would also like to point out that C++ is a PROGRAMMING language and Python is a script language, which is a HUGE difference. Python is not and does not turn into a executable.

PS: C vs C++ in the basics is pointless. Its not before you reach a bit of knowledge that they two separate as languages.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 01:11:12 am by ande »
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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 02:51:50 am »
So you guys Suggest me to take on Python then to C++ for making hacks for games. Then is it a bad idea to learn C after working with Python/C++ for years/months ?

Btw how do peopl crack softwares and games ? How do they actually do that and using which language is preffered ?

And just curios whats the difference between Microsoft Visual C++ and C++ ?
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 03:05:32 am by asdqwezxc1 »

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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 03:17:18 am »
Python is not and does not turn into a executable.


What about Py2Exe? I know it's not the same as a fully compiled language, just pointing out it is possible.
>>>import this
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Re: First Step ?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 01:14:11 pm »
So you guys Suggest me to take on Python then to C++ for making hacks for games. Then is it a bad idea to learn C after working with Python/C++ for years/months ?

Btw how do peopl crack softwares and games ? How do they actually do that and using which language is preffered ?

And just curios whats the difference between Microsoft Visual C++ and C++ ?

I cant say for sure, but I think you will have a hard time making game hacks/cracking games with Python. In that case I would suggest C, but it is a hard language as a first language and learning on your own.
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