Author Topic: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?  (Read 29847 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline EmilKXZ

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Posts: 109
  • Cookies: 10
  • likes monies :p
    • View Profile
    • EmilKXZ
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2012, 04:29:52 am »
If you can't afford a proper VPN, then maybe you shouldn't yet be thinking of doing anything that requires it?
That's the problem, what if you need to leak something for the freedom's sake? Can't leak because of not having enough money?

Privacy, anonymity, etc. those are not necessarily to do bad things. These should be as available as possible, for those who can't afford.

Offline namespace7

  • Sir
  • ***
  • Posts: 561
  • Cookies: 115
  • My Brother's Keeper
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2012, 12:33:32 pm »
But they wont be available for free, because it takes money to run them.
Also, it doesn't cost much anyway.
"A programmer’s greatest enemy isn’t the tools or the boss or the artists or the design or the legacy code or the third party code or the API or the OS. A programmer’s greatest enemy is getting stuck.
Therefore a crucial step to becoming a better programmer is learning how to avoid getting stuck, to recognize when you’re stuck, and to get unstuck." -Jeff Wofford

Offline EmilKXZ

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Posts: 109
  • Cookies: 10
  • likes monies :p
    • View Profile
    • EmilKXZ
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2012, 04:08:34 am »
Well, you'd be surprised. It isn't like it costs a fortune. It could cost half dollar. It can be so cheap, that an average person could pay a thousand of those. VPS' or similar.

The problem is with the oppresive countries that block access to foreign currencies. There are some (which I won't mention) where you can have a VISA/MasterCard, but the local policy is to use that card in the local currency only. Then you can buy in the internet only the stuff of that country. Want a book from Amazon? You can't afford it, even if it just does cost $2 USD. Want a VPS? perhaps it just does cost $5 at PRQ.se, but you can't pay it, because your credit card, bank, whatever, won't let you pay for it. You could be rich in the local currency, but it won't automatically convert into euros or whatever the currency is.

Having said this, you could instead, earn in dollars directly, in a virtual account. The problem comes when you are about to receive money and PayPal asks you to confirm your identity, with your credit card, they will just pull a $1 or $2, and give it back to you. But in essence, you can't confirm your identity if you can't even give away that $1. It gets all narrowed to alternatives, such as Moneybookers (not that is bad, it's just less mainstream).

That's my point when I say, "probably can't afford"

Offline G Man

  • Serf
  • *
  • Posts: 43
  • Cookies: -2
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 06:58:49 am »
alternative to Tor? Thanks ;D
Insanity in individuals is rare - but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule.

Offline EmilKXZ

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Posts: 109
  • Cookies: 10
  • likes monies :p
    • View Profile
    • EmilKXZ
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 12:09:32 pm »
Well, there are free public proxies, but is not advised I just saw in a Blackhat USA 2012 video that is around. Proxies can inject code that could either pwn your browser or leave your cache infected. If you can afford a VPN solution, go for that (check data retention policies, and... it isn't like you can fully trust them anyways).

I don't know if I2P is currently working. Go test drive it, and tell us!  :)

Offline darkchild

  • NULL
  • Posts: 2
  • Cookies: 0
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 08:57:37 am »
This is just a social observation but there are many groups and "meet-ups" all around the world where hacking is what the theme is. I don't think in general saying "hacking" is taking as taboo because the philosophy of hacking (the glider) has to do with a form of out-of-the-box creative problem solving, NOT something inherently negative. However, under critical missions of hacking for financial (or other) gain, this would be more important and would then have what I imagine to be similar to another organized "illegal" dynamic social system where anonymity must be maintained technically and socially.


BTW in my experience, proxies and especially tor are very slow. Also I don't think it is wise to go hang out in a random neighborhood or van lol with your laptop. Wifi capabilities are popping up everywhere in metro areas and a lot of them (small businesses) are not secure at all, while other's wont let you use proxies (like tor, even adblock for youtube, or googlesharing).
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 09:05:02 am by darkchild »

Offline ande

  • Owner
  • Titan
  • *
  • Posts: 2664
  • Cookies: 256
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2012, 01:14:51 am »

unrelated stuff]

BTW in my experience, proxies and especially tor are very slow. Also I don't think it is wise to go hang out in a random neighborhood or van lol with your laptop. Wifi capabilities are popping up everywhere in metro areas and a lot of them (small businesses) are not secure at all, while other's wont let you use proxies (like tor, even adblock for youtube, or googlesharing).

TOR and public proxies are not proxies(well they are but..). They are SHIT, of course they are slow when either there are 500 other people using it or its on a fuggin island in Australia.

Stop complaining about public proxies and do something about it instead. Like buying your own dedicated one for like 3 bucks a month, or even better get it by other means...

</rant>
« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 01:15:23 am by ande »
if($statement) { unless(!$statement) { // Very sure } }
https://evilzone.org/?hack=true

Offline none

  • /dev/null
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Cookies: -5
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2012, 03:33:40 am »
you can use tor for small shit like irc and messaging but itś really slow for other shit.

Offline Baron Blue Guardian

  • /dev/null
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Cookies: -10
    • View Profile
    • he's dope
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2016, 02:14:56 pm »
Tor was cracked by the nsa. Lol

« Last Edit: January 30, 2016, 02:15:14 pm by Baron Blue Guardian »

"Hacking is like Magic!"


Quote
You just have to be bold enough , then you have the whole world at your feet .

Offline 0pt1musPr1m3

  • EZ's Asshole
  • Peasant
  • *
  • Posts: 89
  • Cookies: 90
  • Certified Asshole
    • View Profile
Re: How to stay Anonymous when Hacking ?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2016, 04:04:43 pm »
Tor was cracked by the nsa. Lol

NSA created Tor bruh,



@OP why worry so much about it? Spend some time learning how to hack something and this shit will become elementary. When you outgrow hacking your own shit, VMs, etc then worry about this. Till then its rather pointles.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.